Re: Re: Historic Tripoint: Russia / Germany / Austria-Hungary

very nice indeed
thanx again
& looking forward to more particulars on all these
topics as they become available

tho many quadriconvergencies or prospective
quadripoints do disintegrate into pairs of near
tripoints on closer inspection
i will be surprised if this one does because it feels
so deliberately constructed

but i will certainly be standing by on the abutment
with bated breath & paying the necessary close
attention until it is finally resolved

do you suppose any of your english informants could be
reached at this late date

--- Nicky Gardner <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for your comments Aletheia, and particularly
> for all those 
> links to historic BoundaryPoint threads and other
> material. In 
> truth, I'm only now browsing some of the old
> messages here for the 
> first time, so I wasn't aware of the earlier
> discussions you may 
> have had here on points that feature in hidden
> europe. I can shed 
> some light on the alleged English quadripoint. As I
> said in the 
> article (which I wrote some months back, and which
> only now appears 
> in the magazine), it is probably a quadripoint, but
> could 
> conceivably be two very close tripoints – I guessed
> if I'd been in 
> England and had access to some very large scale
> mapping, I might 
> have bothered to check, but being here in Berlin, I
> didn't check – 
> and admit that in the article. It certainly has a
> degree of local 
> currency: folk evidently know about it (but they are
> probably 
> unaware of the existence of the tripointing
> community; in fairness, 
> I'd never come across tripointing until a few months
> back). I heard 
> that on the very day that Rutland was reconstituted
> as an English 
> county, 1 April 1997, a group from Oakham in Rutland
> visited all the 
> restored county's tripoints and recorded the point
> of convergence 
> with the ceremonial counties of Cambridgeshire,
> Lincolnshire and 
> Northamptonshire as being a `four corner point.' In
> recent years, I 
> know that some Cambridge uni students and young
> academics have 
> regularly drunk their way round the boundaries of
> Cambridgeshire, 
> and once again the alleged quadripoint features.
> 
> The point is at OS grid reference TF020057. I attach
> a couple more 
> quotes from the feature which appears in the
> September 2006 issue of 
> hidden europe. 
> 
> "If the cartographers can confirm that four English
> counties really 
> do converge at Ordnance Survey grid reference
> TF020057, there's a 
> real estate killing to be made in that field, and in
> a few years the 
> punters will be queuing to pay to experience what it
> feels like to 
> balance on all fours, supported by a limb positioned
> in each of four 
> different counties.
> 
> This balancing act is exactly what travellers on US
> Highway 160 do, 
> when they stop at the Four Corners Monument on an
> otherwise empty 
> desert road where the states of Colorado, Utah,
> Arizona and New 
> Mexico meet. On the whole, Four Corners has the edge
> over its 
> English rival. True, you have to pay a three dollar
> fee to engage in 
> the simple acrobatics that will have you in four
> states at once, but 
> the air is clean and the views are pleasant. A bit
> of marshy 
> undergrowth below an embankment on England's Great
> North Road just 
> doesn't have the same appeal."
> 
> The article pays tribute to tripointers' evident
> abilities to sweet-
> talk border guards into allowing them to go places
> where mere 
> mortals would never normally venture. What else?
> Well, a bit on the 
> Dreländereck Restaurant in Basel, and quite a lot on
> historic 
> tripoints that are no more. At a national level:
> Italy, Yugoslavia 
> and the Free State of Fiume, or subnationally, the
> erstwhile 
> Middlesex / Kent / Surrey tripoint in the Thames
> east of London.
> 
> Of course, we'd be delighted if anyone here at
> Boundary Point wanted 
> to buy a copy of the mag. It is a mere €7 – a snip,
> dare I say – and 
> there are bundled sets of back issues. We have
> something on 
> international borders in every issue of hidden
> europe. Hope this is 
> of interest. The website is at
> www.hiddeneurope.co.uk.
> Nicky
> 
> --- In [email protected], aletheia
> kallos 
> <aletheiak@...> wrote:
> >
> > welcome nicky & thanx for all the great news 
> > tho i got only as far as this tantalizing teaser
> page
> >
>
http://www.hiddeneurope.co.uk/article_info.php?articles_id=244
> > so please do follow up as soon as possible with
> the
> > balance of the report if you can 
> > or with as much as you can if you cant
> > 
> > in the meantime these excerpts from our recent
> ongoing
> > & perhaps even simultaneous quest for your great
> > english quadripoint may interest you as well as
> > explain my excitement over seeing it evidently
> > referred to in your article
> >
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/19709
> >
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/19710
> >
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/19712
> >
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/19714
> >
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/19716
> > 
> > indeed your article fairly promises to be an
> answer to
> > our calls for help
> > 
> > 
> > also 
> > about your above title
> > the following much older highlight from
> >
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/1715
> > A very nice site about the old tp atderu:
> >
> http://www.zollgeschichte.de/monatskarten/11_98.htm
> > To continue: click on Dreikaiserreichsecke. Lots
> of
> > old postcards.
> > 
> > --- Nicky Gardner <nicky@...> wrote:
> > 
> > > The September 2006 issue of hidden europe
> magazine
> > > has an article on the
> > > art of bagging tripoints. The tripoint and
> > > quadripoint examples it
> > > includes are possibly well worn examples, many
> > > surely well-known to
> > > members of this forum. But it does include a
> report
> > > from the point,
> > > southeast of Myslowice in southern Poland, where
> a
> > > hundred years ago the
> > > territories of three great empires met at a
> > > tri-point. The
> > > Dreikaiserreichs Ecke is nowadays a rather
> forlorn
> > > spot, but there was a
> > > time when visiting this tripoint was seen as a
> > > curious excursion. There
> > > are many late nineteenth century postcards of
> the
> > > spot, many including
> > > images of the Kaiser, the Tsar and the Austrian
> > > Emperor. For those
> > > interested, the hidden europe website is at
> > > www.hiddeneurope.co.uk
> > > <http://www.hiddeneurope.co.uk> . The magazine
> has
> > > regularly carried
> > > articles on aspects of life in any around
> European
> > > borders.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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