Re: Re: stretching the quest for a real stretchable latex tripoint to stretch

hahaha
& no wonder it took you so long to get ready
with all that extra erudition you had to pack in

but you have at least shown that the west bank of
bayou pierre lake 
at 
bayou pierre settlement 
is as much a geographical impossibility 
or lets say as seemingly casual a definition
as 
the sabine river at n32x94w was

so that fits right in to the overall picture

except in this case the perpetrator should have known
better

so what are we to do 
who also know better

for it is one kind of fun to take a total ignoramus at
his literal word
& indeed it can even be necessary to do so in boundary
rationalizations
but quite another kind of fun to take a simple slob at
his literal word

yet having already tried the northernmost &
southernmost points of bayou pierre lake for no
particularly good reasons 
how could i not leap to the westernmost point also
when a seemingly good reason is actually provided by
the delimitator in chief

well 
for one thing there is my inherent laziness in such a
case as this

but then too there is the logjam raft to invoke again
which is widely reported to have raised the water
levels in those days

& i would guess in this case it must have extended
bayou pierre lake much closer to the outskirts of the
actual settlement
so that it more nearly lived up to its name 
as the settlement on bayou pierre lake
as well as extending the lake perhaps several miles
farther southwest up buffalo bayou at flood times

& i would like to think that with this new
imponderability now superimposed on our already pretty
sketchy picture
there would not be much point in trying to refine my
latest guessed neutral ground closing line
since it already ran right up buffalo bayou anyway

so i think again we have probably already stretched
this elastic a good deal farther than was actually
possible anyway
& i will rest my lalatxtx try where it presently sits
on my way back to bolivia

--- "Lowell G. McManus" <[email protected]> wrote:

> The Bayou Pierre settlement [BP] is the hamlet now
> known as Carmel.  It 
> is located at 250 feet of elevation, well up into
> the hills, about two 
> miles west of the closest point on Bayou Pierre
> Lake.  This makes sense. 
> A location right on the lake/swamp would have been
> highly flood-prone 
> and unhealthy.  The bayou itself was a stagnant,
> cypress-clogged 
> ancestral stream channel and backwater of the Red
> River that was 
> unsuitable for navigation.  Haggard tells us that BP
> was connected to 
> both Natchitoches and Nacogdoches with roads.  Roads
> followed the higher 
> ground whenever possible.
> 
> The settlement retained the name "Bayou Pierre" well
> into the postbellum 
> era.  In April 1888, Father Anastasius Peters led a
> community of German 
> Carmelite monks from Marienfeld (now Stanton),
> Texas, to Bayou Pierre to 
> establish a monastery northeast of the settlement. 
> He was appointed 
> postmaster of the US Post Office at Bayou Pierre,
> and he succeeded in 
> getting its name changed to "Carmel" the following
> year.  At one time, 
> there were 31 monks and three nuns, operating
> schools for both boys and 
> girls.  The wooden church, monastery, convent, and
> schools were 
> destroyed in an unfortunate trash-burning accident
> in 1904, leaving a 
> small stone chapel as the only tangible modern
> evidence of the religious 
> community's presence.  See pretty photos of the
> restored "Rock Chapel" 
> at
>
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137093
> , but pay no 
> attention to the lady's 1856 dating of its
> construction.  All other 
> sources are in agreement that it should be 1891.
> 
> If you will go to the topo map at
> http://tinyurl.com/z6c8b , you will 
> find Carmel near its southwest corner.  To Carmel's
> northeast is the 
> Immaculate Conception Church, built subsequent to
> the demise of the 
> monastery and no longer in operation today.  A
> half-mile north of this 
> church is the Rock Chapel.  If you will click
> TerraServer one interation 
> east, you will find the swamp known as Bayou Pierre
> Lake poking under 
> Interstate 49 and coming to its westernmost point
> (and its point closest 
> to Carmel) at the section number "37."
> 
> Therefore, I nominate that point as best fitting
> Salcedo's words, "along 
> this bayou to the west bank of Bayou Pierre Lake at
> Bayou Pierre 
> settlement."  You will find it at the red cursor and
> can read its 
> coordinates on the TopoZone map at
> http://tinyurl.com/koe5o .
> 
> I will leave it to you to redraw the line from here
> to the Logansport 
> confluence and refine the notional tripoint if you
> are so disposed.
> 
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA 
> 
> 


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