Re: brfrsr aka brgfsr & while in suriname brgysr too but lotsa luck

first so you can at least see what i mean about these
5 major surinamese multipoints or probabilities
http://tinyurl.com/em5x6

& then 
because this is a concerted slowdown
how about stopping now after all to check out the new
internal surinamese quadripoint suspect 
sr2copasasi or coronie para saramacca sipaliwini
as shown on that map
before we return to the surinamese world class
probabilities

so 
the first attachment shows the likely & fascinating
location for the prospective quadripoint at a river
confluence
& it even includes the relevant ridiculous google
earth line overlay depictions of the 4 district
borders & their exact quadriconjunction
voila & haha

but it leaves me wondering whether 
& if so how 
the geodetic convergent 
aka the para sipaliwini border
ever manages to wend & thread its way all the way
north to the confluence & suspected quadripoint 
without first striking or crossing one border river or
the other
& thus 
as now also seems just as likely
pooping out somewhere short of the presumably desired
& intended megaconjunction

there is probably a treatise somewhere in dutch that
would answer this
& might only take a few years to find
 

& in fact 
since slowing down is so wonderful 
why dont we just forget the surinamese positions for
both brfrsr & brgfsr entirely
while we are taking the opportunity to review them
since they are evidently not taken very seriously by
anyone but the surinamese anyway
& lets return instead only to the brazilian guyanese
or fairly standard mapmakers brgysr
since i know we have a pretty fair geopositional fix
on it to compare the overlays to
thanx to grant hutchison
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/11495
& that position 
to the nearest hundredth of a second of slightly
spurious precision
is the one shown in the next tripoint stretching
diagram attachment
which is the first of 2 for brgysr

for its sequel in the finale attachment is simply a
further refinement of that same guess 
homing in from it to the nearest point on the
ridgeline 
which we also know defines the tripoint location

but it isnt a very pronounced ridge in that area
so even this refined guess is probably correct only to
within a few hundred meters at best


& next 
the rousing conclusion of the brazil 9 
at brgyve

--- aletheia kallos <aletheiak-/[email protected]> wrote:

> http://www.sam.usace.army.mil/en/wra/
> Suriname/Suriname%20GroundWaterMap.pdf
> shows the disputed positions for both of the
> suriname
> tripoints
> as well as a prospective sr2copasasi
> quadridistriktpunkt discovery btw
> where districts 3 6 7 & 10 all appear to meet
> & which we should investigate sometime too when we
> are
> not so busy
> 
> but for now
>
http://www.voillemont-deiber.qc.ca/images/bornetrijonction.jpg
> is said to mark the french position of brfrsr on the
> serra tumucumaque 
> supposedly at the head of the koule or coule coule
> river 
> which the above map calls the litani
> while the surinamese position of brfrsr is at the
> head
> of the marowijne on the same serra
> 
> the brazilians subscribe to the french position btw
> & the encarta depiction agrees 
> & appears to designate mont mitaraka as the tripoint
> peak 
>
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/mapcenter/map.aspx?TextLatitude=39.45&TextLongitude=-98.907&TextAltitude=0&TextSelectedEntity=39070&SearchEnc=false&MapStyle=Comprehensive&MapSize=Large&MapStyleSelectedIndex=0&searchTextMap=mont+mitaraka&MapStylesList=Comprehensive
> 
> so because the satpic is so poor 
> i was reduced to groping for these features largely
> on
> the basis of altitude readings
> which produced the frankly speculative but hopeful
> result shown on the tripoint stretching diagram
> attachment
> after i finally settled on the highest peak in the
> neighborhood
> 
> in the case of the surinamese version of brfrsr 
> there is no such singular high point to home in on
> whether rightly or wrongly
> so i didnt even try that one
> 
> 
> the situation with brgysr is highly similar
> except in that case both head streams are called by
> the same name
> tho sometimes distinguished as the kutari curuni
> courantyne for the guyanese version & the new
> courantyne or just the new river for the surinamese
> version
> & the serra sometimes has a different name but is
> the
> same highlands on which both of the brfrsr positions
> are situated too
> 
> & again the brazilians are not buying the surinamese
> position but favor the guyanese version in this case
> http://www.guyanaca.com/suriname/appendix3.html
> as do google earth & borderbase
> but here i am at an even greater loss to zero in on
> either position any better than they have already
> done
> for us

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