Re: first known map of hnnisv tridominium & its trilines & tripoint

"Lowell G. McManus" <[email protected]> Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:24:16 -0500
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The lobe of the Gulf of Fonseca that begins at the kilometer scale and 
north arrow runs about 20 miles southeastward and has an average width 
of about eight miles between opposing points of land.  Therefore, there 
is plenty of room within it for tridominium under the provisions of the 
court decision below.  If the Gulf is jointly held, subject only to the 
sovereign three-mile territorial seas, I see no reason why the 
southeastern lobe  should not be joint, as well as the small area along 
the historic bay closing line.

Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak-/[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:14 AM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] first known map of hnnisv tridominium & its 
trilines & tripoint


> interesting new sketch map of the gulf of fonseca
> http://www.laprensa.com.sv/nacion/Las%20aguas%20en%20condominio.pdf
> found in this fresh report of a disputed island within
> it
> http://luterano.blogspot.com/2006/10/el-salvador-and-honduras-argue-over.html
> gives a first clear impression of the de jure hnnisv
> triarea
> the most multisovereign territory in the world
> & its borders & multipoint
>
> on this map
> the tridominial territory is bounded by the thick blue
> gulf closing arrow to its southwest & by the gold &
> blue dotted territorial sea limit lines of ni & sv
> respectively to the east & north
>
> so these dotted lines are the tridominial trilines
> hnnisvni & hnnisvsv respectively
> as far as their first intersection point
> at the tridominial tripoint hnnisvnisv
>
> notably only ni & sv abut this tridominial area
>
> for hn this tridominium is an exclave or overseas
> territory
>
> nor does it appear to contain any islands to fight
> over
>
> the legal text for it
> from a 1992 icj decision
> is as follows
>
> THE CHAMBER,
>
> 1. By four votes to one,
>
> Decides that the legal situation of the waters of the
> Gulf of Fonseca is as follows: the Gulf of Fonseca is
> an historic bay the waters whereof, having previously
> to 1821 been under the single control of Spain, and
> from 1821 to 1839 of the Federal Republic of Central
> America, were thereafter succeeded to and held in
> sovereignty by the Republic of El Salvador, the
> Republic of Honduras, and the Republic of Nicaragua,
> jointly, and continue to be so held, as defined in the
> present Judgment, but excluding a belt, as at present
> established, extending 3 miles (1 marine league) from
> the littoral of each of the three States, such belt
> being under the exclusive sovereignty of the coastal
> State, and subject to the delimitation between
> Honduras and Nicaragua effected in June 1900, and to
> the existing rights of innocent passage through the
> 3-mile belt and the waters held in sovereignty
> jointly; the waters at the central portion of the
> closing line of the Gulf, that is to say, between a
> point on that line 3 miles (1 marine league) from
> Punta Amapala and a point on that line 3 miles (1
> marine league) from Punta Cosigüina, are subject to
> the joint entitlement of all three States of the Gulf
> unless and until a delimitation of the relevant
> maritime area be effected; that the legal situation of
> the waters of the Gulf of Fonseca is as follows: the
> Gulf of Fonseca is an historic bay the waters whereof,
> having previously to 1821 been under the single
> control of Spain, and from 1821 to 1839 of the Federal
> Republic of Central America, were thereafter succeeded
> to and held in sovereignty by the Republic of El
> Salvador, the Republic of Honduras, and the Republic
> of Nicaragua, jointly, and continue to be so held, as
> defined in the present Judgment, but excluding a belt,
> as at present established, extending 3 miles (1 marine
> league) from the littoral of each of the three States,
> such belt being under the exclusive sovereignty of the
> coastal State, and subject to the delimitation between
> Honduras and Nicaragua effected in June 1900, and to
> the existing rights of innocent passage through the
> 3-mile belt and the waters held in sovereignty
> jointly; the waters at the central portion of the
> closing line of the Gulf, that is to say, between a
> point on that line 3 miles (1 marine league) from
> Punta Amapala and a point on that line 3 miles (1
> marine league) from Punta Cosigüina, are subject to
> the joint entitlement of all three States of the Gulf
> unless and until a delimitation of the relevant
> maritime area be effected;
>
> etc
>
> & yet
> from this it is not clear
> or at least not to me
> whether there might not also be a second triarea
> within the gulf
> several miles eastward from the clearly established
> one
> & shown on the above map surrounding the mileage scale
> & north arrow
> & bounded by gold & blue & red dotted lines
> & thus adjacent to all 3 countries
>
> but can anyone say if there is only the single
> tridominial area or 2
>
> here is a map of the full gulf for your consideration
> http://encarta.msn.com/map_701512830/Gulf_of_Fonseca.html
>
>
>
>
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