SV: bzgtmx

I wonder if it should not be placed a little SW of your cloud. If you look
at Google Earth again, you clearly see the BZMX and MXGT vistas.
 
This document http://www.sre.gob.mx/cilasur/Assets/Images/informe2003.pdf
indicated vista as the border.
 
Jesper
 
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vegne af aletheia kallos
Sendt: 3. oktober 2006 09:32
Til: [email protected]
Emne: [BoundaryPoint] bzgtmx



but 
to continue with the deliberations about where the
next stop should be
there is an additional difficulty awaiting us in
bulgaria
that wouldnt at all be awaiting us in belize
unless we slow down & defer bulgaria long enough for
the iso folks to finally catch up & tell us what to
call the inherited former bgcsro & bgcsmk tripoints

i mean now that the former serbia & montenegro aka cs
has become serbia & montengro individually
but with their obligatory new digraphs still
unannounced
& indeed so long delayed that we cant be sure theyll
ever be announced

& tho we have already visited several erstwhile cs
tripoints fairly comfortably 
by both noting their transformations & nicknaming them
in isofips 
even while awaiting their actually proper names to be
given in pure iso
& tho we could certainly do so again & again if
necessary since all the nicknames are already known &
in use 
at least by me
nevertheless
any delay in reaching bulgaria will reduce accordingly
our chances of having to extemporize in isofips there
at all
by the time we do get there
should the iso folks finally announce the new digraphs
in the interim

so there you have at least another good reason to keep
slowing down 

if not to divert immediately to belize

nor is there any really good reason not to detour in
this way now
since we have already done so for the similarly
overlooked bfbjne 

& so 
tho i can tell you belize is not entirely without her
own problems 
the resulting attached tripoint stretching diagram for
bzgtmx is based on the known geocoords for the new
marker position
or at least the precisely known longitude &
approximate latitude
which tho not yet the legally agreed position is
fairly inescapable

& the formerly supposed position 
aka gtmx marker 107
is about 200 meters due west 
or roughly a quarter of the length of the stretching
line shown here

& this extract from message 11319 explains everything
> > > there are actually 2 known markers there
> > > 
> > > the formerly but wrongly presumptive one
> > > known as the vertice de aguas turbias
> > > is probably 190 to 205 meters due west of the
new one
> > > & is actually now considered the first border
marker on gtmx
> > > 
> > > & this newly presumptive one
> > > which has already been acknowledged by all 3
countries
> > > but awaits long overdue ratifications in an
uncertain process
> > > gives guatemala the extra sliver all agree she
deserves
> > > 
> > > neither one has ever been the legal tripoint tho
> 
> > both markers are more or less exactly at north lat
17 deg 49 min
> > 
> > the old marker
> > is at west long 89 deg 09 min 06 sec & 749
thousandths
> > datum presumably nad27
> > per united states state dept in ibs number 159
> > 
> > & the new marker
> > is at west long 89 deg 09 min 00 sec & 283
thousandths
> > datum presumably wgs84
> > per belizean concession above & joint resurvey
made in 2001
> > 
> > if these longitudes are expressed in the same
datum
> > then the distance between them would be 190 meters

&
before leaving belize
it is probably a good idea also to at least mention
the also not yet legally agreed but similarly putative
bzgthn territorial sea tripoint
if only to suggest that it & the few others of the
maritime persuasion that are scattered around the
world can most easily be picked up all at once after
all the continental world class tripoints have been
completed
since none of these salty ones are included in the
borderbase tour anyway 
& might otherwise create a lot of gratuitous confusion
& difficulty

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