Re: new age-isms

George, 

You completely understood what I said :o)
Indeed, everything is perfect, even if we believe that perfect is 
something else. We are getting exactly what we have created (let's 
not forget, that we are Masters Creators through our thoughts, words 
and deeds!) and everything that happens to us is something that we 
have created.
For maybe more clarity: http://www.cwg.org/en/20/course1/03.htm

Something else I want to share, is that depending on how we view 
things, we attract exactly that. 
I saw in one of the sites in one previous post "MONEY. sucks, but 
without it, this gathering ain't goin' nowhere." - this is a 
contracdictory statement, I find, because if money sucks, you don't 
need it and if you need it, love it for what it brings you! If you 
keep finding it sucks, then you won't find any, even to do what 
matters most for you.

And one last thing, if there is no darkness, we can't know that light 
exists - because without knowing the opposite of what is, there is no 
way we can experience it. Same thing with wars and peace. Those are 
the law of the Yin/Yang. And what ever you resist will persist...(For 
more clarity: http://www.cwg.org/en/10/10-20-10-7.html and 
http://www.cwg.org/en/20/course1/05.htm)

Enjoy life and choose who you want to be and live it every moment of 
the day, every day!

Sandrine


--- In [email protected], "George@G..." 
<george@g...> wrote:
> oh, your comment about new age phrase "you create your own 
reality"  (actually, starhawk's comment...see email below)
> 
> i think the problem with most New Ageism -- why is New Age beliefs 
considered flaky, insubstantial?  it's because they're communicating 
using a different worldview (miscommunication--the most common source 
of conflict?) ... new agers too often fail to adequately explain (to 
the non new-agers) the concrete details of their thought, connecting 
the dots between the words and reality.
> 
> for example, just recently sandrine opened my eyes to a new ageism 
i had found frustrating: "Everything is perfect, just as it is."  i 
thought: "how can everything be perfect?  if everything is perfect, 
we don't need to change or improve anything, right?"  sandrine's 
response, paraphrasing her, was something like: "no, everything is 
the *perfect result* of the causes that have happened up to now... 
that's what 'everything is perfect' means."  so, rather than being 
depressed that reality ain't what it's "supposed" to be, we try to 
understand how it has come to be the way it is.
> 
> i apologize sandrine if i misunderstand you!  please feel free to 
correct.
> 
> let's continue to seek to understand one another, and have our eyes 
opened to worlds we never knew existed.
> 
> george
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Colin Leath 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 2:56 PM
>   Subject: [OurCultureOurCapitol] the book of yo & NewCiv.org & misc
>   Also (Sandrine :) ) Starhawk takes issue with "you create
>   your own reality"
> 
>   p 75 "Creating your own reality" is a New Age watchword, but
>   many of those who espouse it really mean "take the best of
>   what the system has to offer for yourself"--an option open
>   only to a few of the more privileged among us. But to
>   actually change the terms of reality itself, to generate new
>   systems based on different values, is a far more demanding,
>   dangerous, and revolutionary task.
> 
>   p 79 Awareness is the beginning of all resistance
> 
>   p 82
>   When we rebel without challenging the framework of reality
>   the system has constructed, we remain trapped. Our choices
>   are predetermined for us.
> 
>   p 83 for the choices the system presents us with inevitably
>   increase the system's control
> 
>   p 83 to defy reality is not the same as to change it
> 
>   p 84 resistance embodies a reality incongruent with that of
>   domination
> 
>   p 86 survival - itself an act of ultimate resistance
> 
>   p 86 to resist is to engage reality, to act.
> 
>   Awareness, emotions, are not enough.
> 
>   For acts of resistance against systems that destroy us are
>   ultimately acts of survival, creation, and nurture.
> 
>   p 86 "I don't want to focus energy on resistance, on the
>   negative."
> 
>   resistance is the refusal to be negated by systems of
>   control.
> 
>   -Starhawk http://www.starhawk.org/
> 
>   Colin
>   http://j9k.org


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