Re: Re: [Israel.pm] Is University Really Necessary?
"Arik Baratz" <[email protected]>
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On 3/24/07, Nir Simionovich <[email protected]> wrote: > As an employer, I can surely say that for some roles I would rather take a > person with a degree, while other roles require someone who has none. When > taking somebody to work inside a large team, I would rather take someone > with a degree, as I know that they are "programmed" to do what they are > told, and their paradigms are well known and fairly predictable. When a role > requires a somewhat of a "lone gun-man" approach, I would prefer a > non-academic background, as this approach requires "out-of-the-box" > thinking, an ability to go beyond the paradigms and in some cases, breaking > a rule or two along the way. Hey Nir, You're being very stereotypical. You're assigning properties to people's character based on their education. I would say that there are good people and excellent people. The good people can benefit from higher education (by learning to treat problems in a structured way), and the excellent people cannot be ruined by higher education, and can sometimes benefit from it. I can say that I have benefited from my Technion experience (I'm a CS BA). I've learned, mostly, humility. I used to be able to just wing it in high school, to the extent that I would read the response to my homework from a blank page, doing it in my head as I pretended to read. The Technion is the first place that challenged me in a major way and taught me that winging it is not enough, that sometimes it does pay to sit down for a moment and do structured work. It has nothing to do with being a "lone gunman" or thinking outside the box or bending some rules to a well-calculated pre-breakage point. This is where you need someone excellent, regardless of education. Being able to both think outside the box AND enjoy the benefits of structured work is even better. What's more, higher education gives you a common language spoken by the top people in our industry, and as you well know, communication is sometimes as important as mad skillz. To sum it up: The people who "do what they're told" and are programmed with paradigms are good, and they probably benefited from higher education. They probably made a wise choice. The people who are excellent, might be refined by higher education but you can't take that edge away from them. I have a lot of examples to show you of both kinds of people, including people we both know. -- Arik