Re: "COBOL - the New Age Programming Language"
Arik Baratz <[email protected]> Sun, 1 Aug 2010 18:45:26 +1000
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--e0cb4e887bc135140b048cbf1c60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 1 August 2010 05:18, Shlomi Fish <shlomif-ik1l9ssToec+JF/[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I've finished setting up a new page in my site: > > > http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/bits/COBOL-the-New-Age-Programming-Language/ Hi Shlomi There's a 4th gen language called CSP that used COBOL as its back end (you'd generate COBOL from CSP and then compile). Where I worked they wrote in PL/1 when they needed low level access, not actual COBOL. I don't really understand the point of the page, it's not like you'd find people disagreeing with you or people you need to convince. The call to action at the end of the page is really redundant if all you want to do is make a look-at-how-stupid-people-used-to-be page, which for the most part it is. My opinion is that the fact that many people used it gives it some merit. Perhaps it was the best they had or perhaps aliens in a parallel dimension used their brain rays to make everyone think that COBOL is a great idea (and the aliens switched to C++ after). But considering today's alternatives, if you haven't figured out that COBOL is not the right language for your new project, no amount of words is going to convince you otherwise. -- Arik --e0cb4e887bc135140b048cbf1c60 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style="background-color: #fff;"> <span style="display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;"> <div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-text" > <p><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 August 2010 05:18, Shlomi Fish <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shlomif-ik1l9ssToec+JF/[email protected]">shlomif@iglu.<wbr>org.il</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;"> Hi all,<br> <br> I've finished setting up a new page in my site:<br> <br> <a href="http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/bits/COBOL-the-New-Age-Programming-Language/" target="_blank">http://www.shlomifi<wbr>sh.org/humour/<wbr>bits/COBOL-<wbr>the-New-Age-<wbr>Programming-<wbr>Language/</a></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hi Shlomi</div> <div><br></div><div>There's a 4th gen language called CSP that used COBOL as its back end (you'd generate COBOL from CSP and then compile). Where I worked they wrote in PL/1 when they needed low level access, not actual COBOL.</div> <div><br></div><div>I don't really understand the point of the page, it's not like you'd find people disagreeing with you or people you need to convince. The call to action at the end of the page is really redundant if all you want to do is make a look-at-how-<wbr>stupid-people-<wbr>used-to-be page, which for the most part it is.</div> <div><br></div><div>My opinion is that the fact that many people used it gives it some merit. Perhaps it was the best they had or perhaps aliens in a parallel dimension used their brain rays to make everyone think that COBOL is a great idea (and the aliens switched to C++ after). But considering today's alternatives, if you haven't figured out that COBOL is not the right language for your new project, no amount of words is going to convince you otherwise.</div> <div><br></div><div>-- Arik</div><div><br></div><div></div></div></div></div></div> </p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div id="ygrp-actbar" style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 10px; white-space: nowrap; color: #666; padding-top: 15px;"> <div> <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re: [hackers-il] "COBOL - the New Age Programming Language"" style="margin-right: 0; padding-right: 0;"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">sender</span></a> | <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re: [hackers-il] "COBOL - the New Age Programming Language""> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">group</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwbDhsaDc3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4NTczMzIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NzY0BG1zZ0lkAzUxMjYEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMjgwNjUyMzg1?act=reply&messageNum=5126">Reply <span style="font-weight: 700;">via web post</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJlcHV1Z2k5BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4NTczMzIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NzY0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTI4MDY1MjM4NQ--" style="font-weight: 700;">Start a New Topic</a> </div> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il/message/5125;_ylc=X3oDMTM0MnBsMGZhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4NTczMzIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NzY0BG1zZ0lkAzUxMjYEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMjgwNjUyMzg1BHRwY0lkAzUxMjU-">Messages in this topic</a> (<span style="font-weight: 700;">2</span>) </div> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #e0ecee; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inline;"> </ul> <div style="clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hackers-il;_ylc=X3oDMTJlb2JubDJqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4NTczMzIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NzY0BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTI4MDY1MjM4NQ--" style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a> </div> </div> <div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJkaGgybDRzBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzE4NTczMzIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NzY0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxMjgwNjUyMzg1" style="float: left;"><img src="http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/yg/logo/us.gif" height="15" width="137" alt="Yahoo! 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