Re: beyondhom Short forms

Ellen Madono <[email protected]> Fri, 15 Mar 2013 20:05:17 +0900
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Hi Irene,

Actually, I am not at all sure about this idea of a constitutional remedy.
I agree, finding the similum is a better description of what we are doing.
 Personally, I am not sure that my practice would change if I were sure
that there was an ICT or a constitutional remedy.

Here is what I see around me:

 I am working with miasm categories in two different ways of thinking.
 That is as close as I get to something inate.

 I don't really know if Dr. Shahrdar gets to any thing inate.  He has so
many viruses that he is working with, I think he would easily slip out of
those sorts of speculative categorization theories.  He is certainly
working with susceptibility in the classical sense and because his present
work is with the viruses, the DNA is involved, he thinks.  So he is
creeping up on inate.

HFA  Homeopathic Facial Analysis does propose a life long miasmatic
category.  I don't have enough experience to affirm one way or another.
 Certainly, when I am very sure of the miasmatic category, the individual
seems to stay within that category for acutes and chronics.  But I wish I
had more experience to be more emphatic.  Grant Bentely says that the
categories are life long.  He also notes that human natal families vary
greatly in the category memberships so that is a vote against his way of
thinking and a DNA connection.  Grant's categories are energy movement
patterns in the life of the patient.  Sounds very abstract but that is the
best I can do.  The facial features, behavior and physiology all express
the same type of energy movement. (Inward, outward and spinning with
combinations of those three types added).

Herscu suggests some basic polocrests as the fundamental ICT.  Calc-c,
sulpher, .Lyc, Nat-m, phos, puls, as the basic types.  Psor, med, tub, carc
are deeper into disease syndroms.  He is looking at autistic remedies so he
gets into Bar-c and Stram as the next level and finally Arnica, Bufo,
Cannabis indiac Hell, opium as off shoots of Barty Carb  and Hyos, Tarent
and veratu Album as off shoots of Stram.

I bet if you were looking at a different type of problem, you would make a
different type of tree.  But the basic idea of some polycrests as ICT is
implicit in his diagram. (see Stramonium p. 25)  I like the idea and hope
it is true.  Life would be so much simpler if there were some simple
patterns.
Ha ha

I just took my cat to the vet and was told that I needed 3 shots to get her
spade.  Parvo, herpes simplex and something else.  It was all in Japanese.
 My husband can't stand the yowling and says the neighbors will complain.
 Groan.

Best,
Ellen

English: tokyohomeopathy.com
Japanese:  tokyohomeopathy.jp



On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Irene de Villiers <[email protected]
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> On Mar 14, 2013, at 5:23 AM, Ellen Madono wrote:
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> Irene,
> Is there a constitutional remedy that is not inate? I am referring to the
> conversation about ICT.
> Best,
> Ellen
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> HI Ellen,
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> Please bear with me, it needs explanation:
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> I devised the term Innate Constitutional Type to denote the one type
> associated with an individual that is clearly there from birth to death,
> which cannot be changed or removed or altered, it is innate, like part of
> the  unchangeable major gene DNA.  It's always fascinating to me how it is
> so clearly a part of the individual even at birth.
> (......I add a personal extra here: and if we are reincarnated in any way
> ever, I would expect the individual to always be that ICT even if in some
> other form, as it is the essential type of the individual, it is like their
> essence, I doubt it can be changed over time. I may be right or wrong in
> this, but I can not figure a theory y which such a critically unique
> essence of an individual could change.)
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> I do not use the term "constitutional remedy" at all. I feel it has no
> clear meaning as it is unclear whether it refers to an innate
> constitutional type which cannot be changed, or whether it refers to a
> remedy matched to the disease issues to be restored to health.
>
> I consider that we need to always use a *simillimum* for an illness
> situation. And I always use the term simillimum not "constitutional remedy"
> - as the word "constitution" implies more than matching the illness and one
> cannot match the illness AND the ICT - we'd be working at cross purposes,
> it's one or the other, as one starts with the patient symptoms, not the
> patient's ICT which can include all sorts of tongs NOT part of the illness,
> and thus NOT to be included in simillimum selection.
>       With modern diseases, frequently involving immune system compromise,
> it is not so often that the ICT is also the remedy needed to restore
> health, though that certainly can happen. I would never use it for illness
> instead of seeking a matched simillimum. So for ANY illness situation, I
> use a simillimum. It is matched to the entire illness picture.
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> ICT may or may not result from that careful remedy selection. But the
> simillimum is always the right choice for the situation, arrived at via the
> *symptoms* (not ICT features) of the individual.
>      One can follow later with the ICT, if it looks appropriate to build
> robustness and resistance, or to balance characteristics of the ICT.
>
> That's how I see it.
>
> So now let me turn the tables. What do YOU refer to when you call a remedy
> "constitutional"?
>
> Namaste,
>      Irene
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