Re: beyondhom Lyssinum and Stramonium

Shannon Nelson <[email protected]> Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:44:02 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.culture.homeopathy.general
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Thanks Irene,

I do / did understand the difference between a remedy "state" and the ICT -- but found it odd that he'd have *acquired* such a state so young, without having yet been out of his "nest" -- so far as I could tell.  But maybe he had.  By the time I saw him, mama had abandoned him and his (very mellow) sister.  

Thanks for laying out your FIP case and thinking behind it -- so interesting!

Shannon



On Mar 19, 2013, at 1:31 AM, Irene de Villiers <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Mar 18, 2013, at 3:05 PM, shannonnelson tds.net wrote:
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> > Thanks Irene! I will file this away. 
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> > How do you decide/determine whether the initial needed remedy is ICT or just "the first layer"?
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> Hi Shannon,
> It doesn't matter. You start with the symptoms presenting and use a simillimum. Whether you happen to know what the ICT is for the individual or not, at that point, is immaterial. If the ICT is separate and needs work later, it will present itself as such.
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> Once in a while (twice now in several years) I have seen a complicated case where a simillimum looks almost perfect, and the ICT has everything missing from the simillimum. I happen to be doing that kind of case this week by pure chance, so I'll describe it a bit. I AM using both remedies alternating. As I say it is very rare to find such a case.
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> The kitten has terminal Feline Infectious Peritonitis. She has loss of fluid in the abdomen, filling it up - leaked blood plasma/serum - so all the liquid but hardly any blood cells, containing all her nutrients. This builds in the abdomen and starts to put pressure on all the organs while starving her. She also has very severe red cell and lymphocyte anemia, and the red cells are being broken up by a high level of toxins released from aged neutrophil white cells which are at four times the top limit of normal, and increasing daily. In addition she has indigestion, with great difficulty handling the food she is able to ingest. 
> She spends her time seeking cool places, and seeking attention, including from visiting strangers but after the owner is asleep she goes down to the cold basement. She drinks thirstily, which is helping the dehydration tendency, has always been a heavy water drinker. Her body type also is Sulph which is very clearly her ICT.
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> Sulph will NOT fix this complex disease, but her mental picture is still Sulph and not in line with the simillimum for the illness which is Lyc. I find that in such a severe disease (and generally in any disease) there MUST be a mind match with the remedy to get real results. SO the way to break the impasse here is to use both - SUlph as her resonating ICT for overall support, and Lyc for the specifics of the severe illness.
> So - She is now getting Sulph first thing in the day - and Lyc in the evening. Alternating (and yes I know Kent says one does not follow the other without Calc between but I do not find that true and she responds well to the Sul[h in the morning despite it "following" the Lyc from the previous evening. ) And I am pleased to say, she is responding well so far, eating again, playing again, with more energy. Those are the kinds of responses I like to see as first responses in this kind of dire illness. Mind response first then generals, then specifics.
> With this stage of disease, the time to respond can be critical, as the smashed red blood (A process called FAHA - Fulminant autoimmune hemolytic anemia) is life threatening. Red cells can be induced to be made by the simillimum along with a iron/copper/vitamin supplement for raw material, and perhaps to stop getting broken by simillimum halting the toxin build-up - but the new red cells still take two weeks to mature before they can carry oxygen. This is not like humans who get proper medical spport. Even finding a vet to LOOK at a cat with FIP is near impossible. So it ends up with the cat owner doing all the nursing and treatment, and transfusions etc are not an option.
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> > I used to have a cat who seemed clearly Stram state from first time I saw him, at about 5 weeks -- scratching and spitting from his little hidey-hole. As he grew up he mellowed a *little*, then a traumatic injury sent him into very full-blown stram state, at which point I finally gave it, with amazing result, he was like a different (and much happier) cat! 
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> > Later he needed Puls, and did well on that. (I have read that Puls is "often underneath" a chronic stram case.) 
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> There's a difference between being in a stram state and having a stram ICT - (whether the ICT is well balanced or not.
> The ICT is not a "state" but part of the cat/individual's makeup - hence "innate".
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> For your kitty, they may have needed both stram and Puls and have still another ICT. Or maybe a Stram type but got a Puls illness or voce versa.
> It's lifelong features that point to the ICT. I do not always manage to figure out an individual's ICT. It can theoretically be ANY remedy. There's no "dozen or so" options as some have suggested - and which is a very restricted view that does not fit the variety of individuals that exist and who can be definitively linked to their individual ICT. SOME ICT's are more common than others - a good thing! We do not need too many of a specially dominant type. A few divas or dictators etc is enough - it keeps society in balance. We do need more worker bees (and need them in every imaginable category as specialists in their category) than queens after all. Whatever greater plan is behind it all, makes perfect sense (as usual).
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> > I assume that if he had been stram ICT, there would not have been a second remedy picture coming out,
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> Maybe but can't say for sure. Depends what life issues were applied after stram. For example, a damaged thymus from vaccinations will predispose some horrible illnesses after that, which then would need to be addressed by a matched remedy.
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> > just health and balance until need for more stram? There was no apparent cause of the "second layer"; it just seemed to be his path toward cure. 
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> Whatever emerges needs to be handled?
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> Physical type of Puls and Stram are VERY different :-)
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> Namaste,
> Irene
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