Re: A revolution in Internet point-of-view - Was Re: Internet analyses (Was Re: IPv8...)

John Day via Internet-history <[email protected]>
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Choosing TCP.  Choosing SNMP over HEMS. Choosing IPng over IPv7, I am probably wrong but was the choice of domain-names broadly decided. There was a real fascination at the time with ‘host-names’, even though it has been known since the early 80s that ‘host-hames’ are irrelevant to creating end-to-end connections.

As long as we are on the topic, why was IP Fragmentation never solved?  PMTUD is a kludge, not a solution. (There is a solution). It is even richer that IPv6 has made PMTUD mandatory, even though it is a known DOS attack method, a real mark of a successful project.

As for just plain conservative choices: TCP/IP, UDP, losing the Internet Layer, Sockets, TCP Congestion Control was a step back to CUTE+AIMD, IPv6, naming the interface in routers (apparently not understanding that when a packet is sent down a point-to-point line there is only one place for it to come out: the other end. Addresses on either end or not necessary. An identifier local to the router is required to distinguish them but not an address.) Most routers are connected by point-to-point lines. But that is okay, routers assigned an IP address to the Loopback module and route on that.

John

> On Apr 29, 2026, at 19:47, Dave Crocker <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 4/29/2026 4:43 PM, John Day wrote:
>> When presented with potential solutions, the IETF was either directed to take a direction (usually a step backwards), or chose the more conservative decision (also a step backwards) and flawed direction.
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> John,
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> Please provide specific examples of the IETF being given direction as to what choices to make.
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