Re: ppp - was Re: "The Great Debate"
Frank Kastenholz via Internet-history <[email protected]>
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> On Apr 30, 2026, at 8:12 AM, Scott Bradner via Internet-history <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On Apr 30, 2026, at 12:58 AM, Brian E Carpenter via Internet-history <[email protected]> wrote: >> > ... > >> The PPP WG submitted PPP Compression over a year ago...." >> >> This was all about IPR claims by a large company. I daresay it was one of the topics during the fine IAB dinner in Stockholm. The IETF hadn't yet figured out how to deal with contentious IPR claims. I think we do better now. > > The issue with ppp compression that Brian refers to was that Motorola > notified the IETF that ppp compression (then an ID) infringed on some of their patents. > At the time the standards process (RFC 1602) required that a patent holder publish a > license for any patent they claimed impacted an IETF specification - Motorola > ignored all requests for them to do so. > > Thus, the publication of ppp compression (and encryption) as RFCs was blocked. > > This stayed the case until Jon Postel published RFC 1871 - "Addendum to RFC 1602 > -- Variance Procedure" > > After which Frank Kastenholz, with proper IESG & IETF review, published RFC 1915 > "Variance for The PPP Compression Control Protocol and The PPP Encryption > Control Protocol" which freed up ppp to get published > > The whole story is explained in RFC 1915 > > it was quite a pain at the time! "Ditto" And, if I recall, besides being a clear case of IETF-sclerosis, the PPP compression and encryption issue was a driving force for developing RFC1871 and other efforts to make the process more efficient. Frank (Internet AD at the time) > > Scott (IESG at the time) > > -- > Internet-history mailing list > [email protected] > https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history > - > Unsubscribe: https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/9b6ef0621638436ab0a9b23cb0668b0b?The%20list%20to%20be%20unsubscribed%20from=Internet-history -- Internet-history mailing list [email protected] https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history - Unsubscribe: https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/9b6ef0621638436ab0a9b23cb0668b0b?The%20list%20to%20be%20unsubscribed%20from=Internet-history