Re: "The Great Debate"

At that same period, I was chair of the IETF group that produced RFC 1697,
in about nine months from start to draft standard. Marshall was my advisor.
I don't recall any issues with IESG.

As for "pressing for forward progress":  I don't know what the situation
was with those other groups, but leading a group like that is definitely a
test of your political skills. Reminding everyone that their managers will
not be happy if they spend a lot of time on this and nothing comes out of
it, is a key message. If you're not constantly saying that, as well as
listening to their *legitimate* concerns then you are going to have
problems.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2026 at 10:10 PM Dave Crocker via Internet-history <
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> On 4/29/2026 9:58 PM, Brian E Carpenter via Internet-history wrote:
> > So far, it has not done this. And at this point, I
> > feel that the IESG itself is a major factor in the delays."
>
>
> Concern over delays was widely held.  I started noticing that WG Chairs
> were doing an excellent job of making sure that everyone got to
> participate, but were quite poor at pressing for forward progress.
>
> That was why I started the WG Chair Training sessions. Ostensibly it was
> to introduce new chairs to the formal IETF processes.
>
> While it did do that, it's real agenda was to sell the need to balance
> between ensuring fair opportunities to air views, with making forward
> progress.
>
> At the time, I thought it helpful.
>
> d/
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