Re: Terminator - for real.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincos_language

The Lincos "dictionary <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictionary>" is
intended to be transmitted first before any additional messages. It teaches
natural numbers by a series of repeated pulses, separated by pauses. It
then teaches >, <, =, +, -, by examples such as *. . . . . > . . .* (an
extended pause is shown around > in this example so as to suggest to an
alien that > is a new separate symbol; otherwise, an alien might think that
the whole pattern is a new symbol of unknown meaning). In introducing =,
unary notation is shown for numbers: *.* = 1, *. .* = 2, and so on. This
progresses to multiplication, division, variables, and constants, then
propositional
logic <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propositional_logic>, set theory
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_theory>, and first-order logic
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-order_logic>. The dictionary tries to
introduce questions by leaving mathematical expressions unsolved (e.g., ? x
x + 101 = 11).

On Sat, May 2, 2026 at 12:33 PM the keyboard of geoff goodfellow via
Internet-history <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sat, May 2, 2026 at 4:11 AM Noel Chiappa via Internet-history <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >     > From: Miles Fidelman
> >
> >     > an all to[o] plausible scenario for an autonomous drone to become a
> >     > terminator killing machine ... Be scared.  Be very scared.
> >
> > I know I'm not supposed to reply to this post on-list (apologies, Joe),
> but
> > my reply does have an Internet connection.
> >
> [...]
>
> > The Internet has had a role to play in the rise of the thinking machines:
> > in
> > addition to enabling communication among AI researchers, many LLM's have
> > been
> > 'trained' with information retrieved across the Internet (to the point
> > where
> > there are now legal battles over the use of databases retrieved across
> the
> > Internet for training LLM's). As "Neuromancer" predicts, they'll likely
> use
> > it to communicate with each other.
> >
>
> yours truly would summarily posit that it's exactly the opposite in that
> the rise of the thinking machines had a role to play in the rise of The
> Internet: in "Colossus: The Forbin Project" 1970 movie which is based on
> the 1966 science-fiction novel "Colossus" by Dennis Feltham Jones  about an
> advanced American defense system, named Colossus, becoming sentient.  After
> being handed full control, Colossus' draconian logic expands on its
> original nuclear defense directives to assume total control of the world
> and end all warfare for the good of humankind, despite its creators' orders
> to stop.
>
> "... Colossus' first action is a message warning: "THERE IS ANOTHER SYSTEM"
> and giving its coordinates. CIA Director Grauber is asked why the CIA did
> not know this, but Grauber responds that they had seen indications of a
> large Soviet defense project but did not know what it was. Forbin is asked
> how Colossus deduced the other system's existence, to which Forbin answers,
> "Colossus may be built better than we thought." Shortly thereafter, the
> Soviets announce that their "Guardian" system is operational.
>
> Colossus requests to be linked to Guardian. The President allows this,
> hoping to determine the Soviet machine's capability. The Soviets also agree
> to the experiment. Colossus and Guardian begin to slowly communicate using
> elementary mathematics (2×1=2), to everyone's amusement. However, this
> amusement turns to shock and amazement as the two systems' communications
> quickly evolve into complex mathematics far beyond human comprehension and
> speed, whereupon Colossus and Guardian become synchronized using a
> communication protocol that no human can interpret..."
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus:_The_Forbin_Project
>
> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064177/
>
> g
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