Re: A revolution in Internet point-of-view - Was Re: Internet analyses (Was Re: IPv8...)

There are a lot of smaller defense companies now who might be benefiting
from this. I saw an article about "The Gundo" (a term that surprised me
since we never called it that when we worked in El Segundo) on them. So I
would bet that knowledge is still flowing in both directions. Maybe not on
the scale of the Internet, though.

On Sun, May 10, 2026 at 11:36 AM Greg Skinner via Internet-history <
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> On Apr 29, 2026, at 6:13 AM, Andrew Sullivan via Internet-history <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Tempted as I am to editorialize about what this might mean for the
> Internet (I am profoundly depressed about it), I wonder whether those who
> where involved in the Internet's earliest developments have any reflections
> on the attitudes of the societies at the time.  For instance, kc claffy
> once observed to me that it was an inspired bit of industrial policy that
> led the USG (partly it seems to me at the prodding of Al Gore, despite all
> the grief he gets about the topic) to give away the Internet rather than
> lock it into any particular corporate ownership.  I know there is another
> thread that has discussed the BSD-TCP/IP importance, but I guess I'm asking
> for something different: was there a different _social_ environment, in
> your estimation and upon reflection, than there is (say) today such that
> the USG could give such a technology away as they did?  I find it
> impossible to imagine that happening today, when every organization either
> public or private seems to be orieted entirely towards maximum short-term
> financial return on investment, ignoring the longer term benefits.  (And,
> to avoid any doubt, let me be clear that this is not a particular swipe at
> the current USG or any people in charge of it.  This has seemed obvious to
> me for a decade or more.)
> >
>
> I would also include the Linux importance. [1] [2] Quite a bit of TCP/IP
> became available via open source due to Linux.
>
> --gregbo
>
> [1] https://www.oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/
> [2] http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/
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