Re: Word v. WordPerfect

Stuart,

Agreed, I would recommend PDF, though the once-upon-a-time benefit of
its providing some deterrence to copying has disappeared.

Many "experts" recommend RTF, which is more easily converted into word
processing or other formats.

Jim Maule


>>> "Stuart Levine" <[email protected]> 5/12/2004 10:31:02 AM >>>
I am a died-in-the-wool WP guy.  I even bought Star Office so that I 
can work with Word documents without using Word.

Having said all of that, I believe that, to the extent that the Tax 
Court, or any other public agency for that matter, puts documents 
out in a word processing format for public view/consumption, the 
format should be the one(s) that is (are) most broadly available and 
used.  I would note, however, that court opinions probably should 
not be put out in any word processing format, in which case pdf is 
the format that should be used.



On 10 May 2004 at 12:00, James Maule wrote:

> Which goes to show why the Court has the final word [ha ha] on these
> matters.
> 
> At least there's truth in advertising... the perfect part of
> Wordperfect is as close to reality of description as I've seen in
> software. Microsoft, which ought to focus on getting its operating
> system working properly and securely, should give up trying to write
> applications (because they end up as defective and insecure as its
> operating systems).
> 
> I wonder who made the decision in Chief Counsel to move from quality
> to agony. I'd like to see the list of reasons Word is superior.
> Because I need a good laugh this morning.
> 
> Jim Maule
> Professor of Law, Villanova University School of Law
> Villanova PA 19085
> [email protected] 
> http://vls.law.vill.edu/prof/maule 
> mauledagain.blogspot.com 
> President, TaxJEM Inc (computer assisted tax law instruction)
> (www.taxjem.com)
> Publisher, JEMBook Publishing Co. (www.jembook.com)
> Maule Family Archivist & Genealogist (www.maulefamily.com)
> 
> >>> [email protected] 5/10/2004 8:56:16 AM >>>
> This just in from the front in the continuing Word v. WordPerfect
> Wars:
> 
> CC-2004-018 
> 
> May 5, 2004
> 
> 
> Department of the Treasury
> Internal Revenue Service
> Office of Chief Counsel
> Notice
> 
> May 05, 2004
> 
> Subject: 
> Wordprocessing Format
> Issues in Tax Court
> 
> Cancel Date:
> Upon Incorporation into CCDM
> 
> 
> Purpose 
> 
> This Notice advises Chief Counsel employees of the procedures for
the
> submission of documents on diskettes to the United States Tax Court.
> This Notice also advises as to procedures for ordering trial
> transcripts on diskettes. 
> 
> Discussion 
> 
> A. Submission of Diskettes to the Tax Court 
> 
> On September 30, 2003, Microsoft Word became the standard word 
> processing
> application for the Office of Chief Counsel. See CC Notice 2003-009.
> Chief Counsel employees no longer have access to WordPerfect, the
> former word processing application, and cannot reliably convert
> Microsoft Word documents to a WordPerfect format. 
> 
> The United States Tax Court generally uses WordPerfect as its word
> processing application and does not have ready access to Microsoft
> Word. While the Tax Court prefers the parties to submit documents to
> the Court on diskettes using a WordPerfect format, the Tax Court
will
> accept diskettes prepared using word processing applications other
> than WordPerfect, as long as the resulting document is in .pdf
(Adobe
> Acrobat) format. 
> 
> Adobe Acrobat software can convert Word documents into .pdf format.
> Adobe Acrobat software can be accessed through Word using the
> following steps. Due to individual differences on your computer, you
> may need to omit some of these steps or vary them slightly. For
> example, on some computers, you will need to omit Step 3, and click
on
> "Convert to Adobe PDF" which will take you immediately to a "Save"
> box. If after following these instructions, you cannot convert the
> document, consult your local information specialist.
> 
> 
> 1. If your computer does not already have it displayed, bring up the
> PDFMaker toolbar by clicking the left button on your mouse on the
> following: View; Toolbars; PDFMaker 5.0. 
> 
> 2. Step one should result in the display of two icons. Click on the
> first ("Convert to Adobe PDF"). 
> 
> 3. A menu box may appear ("Acrobat PDFMaker needs to save the
Document
> 
> before
> continuing. Do you want PDFMaker to save the Document and
continue?").
> 
> Click
> "Yes." 
> 
> 4. A second menu box appears, prompting you to save the document.
> Unless you want to rename the document, or save it in a different
> location, click "Save." This will save the document as a .pdf file. 
> 
> 5. Alternatively, or if you do not have PDFMaker, you can bring up
the
> eWord toolbar by left clicking with your mouse on: View; Toolbars;
> eWord. On the eWord toolbar, there is a menu option "PDF." If you
> click on this icon, it brings up a menu box captioned, "Save PDF
> document as" and below that lists the name of the Word document.
Click
> "OK" and it will save the Word document as a .pdf file. 
> 
> 6. You also can save the document as a .pdf file to diskette. After
> saving the document as a .pdf file above, go into your file menu and
> select the document. Then right-click and a menu bar will open. One
of
> the options is "Send to." If you move your cursor over this option,
a
> smaller menu bar appears. One option here is "3 1/2 Floppy [A]." If
> you left-click this option, the document will be saved to the
> diskette. ` 
> 
> 7. If you need to review the document, either open it using the
Adobe
> Acrobat utility or, while in Word, click "File" then "Open." When
the
> menu box listing your Word files appears, highlight the .pdf file
but
> do not double-click or use the "Open" selection on the menu box.
> Instead, right-click. From the drop-down menu, select "Open." This
> will activate the Adobe Acrobat utility and allow you to view the
> file. 
> 
> 8. Saving a Word document as .pdf will remove any hyperlinks. If you
> are required by the Court to hyperlink your citations, you will need
> to go into the Adobe .pdf document and add the hyperlinks manually. 
> 
> B. Ordering Tax Court Trial Transcripts on Diskettes 
> 
> The two contracting reporting companies, Heritage Reporting
> Corporation and On the Record Reporting, Inc., offer diskettes in
> Microsoft Word format. The order form for Heritage Reporting
> Corporation offers Microsoft Word as an option. To obtain a diskette
> in Microsoft Word from Heritage, check the "WORD" box on the
> transcript order form for the diskette format preference and enter
the
> version "2002 Microsoft Word." The order form for On the
> 
> Record
> Reporting, Inc., does not specifically list such an option. If you
> write "WORD, Version 2002" on the transcript order form, On the
Record
> will provide the transcript diskette in Microsoft Word 2002 format.
> The pagination on the diskette may differ from the pagination on the
> hard copy, and there may be other format differences between the
hard
> copy and the diskette as well. 
> 
> Questions concerning this Notice should be directed to Richard
> Grosenick,
> Attorney, APJP, Branch 3 at (202) 622-7950. 
> 
>      ________/s/ ___________
>     DEBORAH A. BUTLER
>     Associate Chief Counsel
>     (Procedure & Administration)
> 
> ********************************************
> Stuart Levine
> Fisher & Winner, LLP
> 315 North Charles Street
> Baltimore, Maryland 21201
> Telephone:             410.385.2000
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> Cellphone:               410.802.5817
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Baltimore, Maryland 21201
Telephone:             410.385.2000
Telecopier:              443.927.7075
Cellphone:               410.802.5817
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