Re: Proposal for augmented structure for PG

Marcello Perathoner <marcello-ULrl/Sucve/[email protected]> Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:57:10 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.culture.literature.e-books.gutenberg.volunteers
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 02/11/2013 02:18 PM, Jon Hurst wrote:

> On 2013-02-11, Marcello Perathoner wrote:
>> Why should PG reorganise itself into a copy of something that
>> already exists elsewhere? See: www.openlibrary.org
>
> Because PG could do it with better focus and higher quality.

I doubt it. I'm not saying impossible, but very improbable.

gutenberg.us (also known as the infamous PG II) has been trying to be a 
meta-catalog for years now, without any success in my eyes.

Also, there are hundreds of other meta-catalogs around. People coming to 
PG want PG, not yet another meta-catalog full of crap.


>> Why should PG turn itself from a trusted source of books of reliable
>> quality into a repository of every kind of crap somebody wanted to
>> throw in?
>
> "Reliable quality" and "every kind of crap" are highly subjective -- who
> gets to decide on behalf of our customers which is which? You believe
> you can do better than the current library using RST; some people will
> agree your versions are superior, some won't. Those that agree can use
> your library. Those that don't can avoid it.
>
> I am not suggesting an Internet free for all. It would be easy to
> approve DP and current solo contributors. For the rest, build a library
> of a few books and send Greg a link; if he likes what he sees he can
> approve a new library.

Same question: why do you not submit your better books to 
openlibrary.org? They already do what you want us to do. You can host 
them on archive.org.


>> Who is going to audit the copyright status of submitted works?
>> You'll have to check each book description and every single cover
>> page. You'll also have to check if the book is indeed derived from a
>> PG edition or if there's "value added" in form of copyrighted
>> illustrations, introductions, author biographies etc.
>
> Same as now -- you need a clearance to include a book in a PG library.
> You can, of course, also do a book that has already had a clearance. For
> the "value added" issue, have a take-down mechanism and ban repeat
> offenders.

And who will check that the clearance covers the book?

So the WWers will be burdened not only by genuine PG editions but 
they'll also have to check every `derived“ edition anybody has posted 
anywhere.





Regards

-- 
Marcello Perathoner
[email protected]
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