Re: Problems with the new RDF/XML format

I can edit the catalog records, but I did not design the underlying
structures.

I have never used the RDF directly myself, and did not know that there was
a "new RDF format".

Marcello would probably be the best person to help address your
question...

Thanks,
Andrew

On Tue, 9 Apr 2013, Dennis Sheil wrote:

> Hello,
>
> With regards to the RDF/XML format of the Project Gutenberg catalog -
>
> I noticed recently the catalog was updated to the new DCMI RDF
> recommendations.  Project Gutenberg still releases the legacy RDF as
> well, for now.
>
> One problem I have been having is the legacy RDF contains information
> which the new RDF format does not.
>
> The new and legacy book catalogs both contains a lot of information.
> Two of the key things for me (and others) are obviously the title and
> author of the book.  With the old legacy catalog you could always
> obtain the title and author of a book.  This is not the case with all
> the books in the new catalog, especially for authors.
>
> One example is e-book #32838, "The Canadian Curler's Manual".
>
> The corresponding RDF file, pg32838.rdf ( which is at
> http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/32838/pg32838.rdf and is also in
> the compressed archive available on the website ), contains no
> information about authorship, editorship, contributions and so
> forth.  With the new RDF format, I can usually find authorship
> information within the pgterms:agent element of the RDF property.
> E-book 32838 has no such element however.
>
> Looking at the legacy RDF format for ebook #32838, I can find the
> author.  The author's name is in the dc:creator element.  It notes the
> author of the book is "Bicket, James".  This information in the legacy
> RDF format is absent from the new format.  Neither the words James nor
> Bicket appear in pg32838.rdf.  With only the new RDF as a resource, I
> have no idea who the author is.
>
> Another example is e-book #10980, "Lady John Russell: A Memoir with
> Selections from Her Diaries and Correspondence".  The corresponding
> RDF file, pg10980.rdf, contains no information about authorship,
> editorship, contributions and so forth.  Looking at the legacy RDF
> format for ebook 10980, I find information indicating who I can note
> as an author with it.  Most authors in the legacy format have their
> information in the dc:creator element.  In the case of this book, the
> authorship information is in the dc:contributor tag.  It notes
> "Russell, Agatha, lady, 1853- [Editor]" as an editor, and also lists
> another editor, as well as two more contributors.  This information in
> the legacy RDF format is absent from the new format.  With only the
> new RDF as a resource, my author field appears blank, as the new RDF
> contains none of the four names listed in the legacy RDF.
>
> Another example is e-book #10668, "The War and Democracy".  The legacy
> RDF lists four authors as creators.  The new RDF, pg10668.rdf, has no
> author information.
>
> I have other e-books as examples if you want them.
>
> Hopefully you will continue providing the legacy RDF until the RDFs
> following the current DCMI reccommendations have this information.
>
> Thanks,
> Dennis Sheil
>
> P.S. Having other information that the legacy RDF had, like number of
> downloads, would be nice as well.  But listing who the author is is
> probably more important.
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