Re: Seeking input on "top 100" collection

Greg Newby <[email protected]> Sat, 7 Sep 2013 04:45:24 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.culture.literature.e-books.gutenberg.volunteers
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 12:56:13PM -0400, Robert Cicconetti wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Greg Newby <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > I agree that First Folio is problematic.  Otherwise, I don't have a
> > basis for a preference.  Actually, I don't even know the was used
> > our #100 (http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/100/pg100.txt), and would
> > be curious to know.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> > For Shakespeare, like other plays, the main idea is to make it far
> > easier to create custom versions for each player/part (plus stage
> > direction).  The markup mentioned above would also make it easy to
> > have a computer-based "minus one" performance, in which a live human
> > performer would read his parts, in the midst of a computer-generated
> > play troup.  (This type of thing is already done with MIDI and musical
> > scores, for musical performances.)  It would also make it trivial to
> > do speaker-based text analysis or other research.
> >
> 
> Let me talk to the PPers, but I think we can also make something that is
> out of the box useful as well... an HTML edition with some light javascript
> menu hidden in the corner perhaps that'll toggle a 40% mask over all but
> one part or such. Or just highlight the specific part in yellow. :) It gets
> slightly tricky in a complete edition (detecting which play you are in and
> only displaying the current characters, remembering the last choice, etc.)
> Chrome, forex, restricts cookies in local copies of HTML, but it might
> allow HTML5 Web storage.. hmm.
> 
> Last time I checked, though, javascript support was inconsistent (at best)
> to non-existent in the mobile reader space[0]... the only way I could see
> to make it work is to color code the parts (for color devices) or
> part-specific versions with tweaked formatting (a PITA to keep maintained,
> even with scripts).
> 
> 

Thanks, Bob.  This sounds promising.  I was not actually thinking
of doing this with Javascript, but it seems a reasonable approach.  
It won't work with all viewers, of course, but presumably the
markup will be there so that other display methods could also work.

We've avoided Javascript entirely as a mechanism for display.
In this case, I think you're talking about a cool (and optional)
way of doing speaker highlighting.

On the other hand, if it's going to be a nightmare to code and
support (and seems likely to end up broken within a few years,
as browser technology advances), then you could just do the HTML
tags (such as an id= or similar), and not worry about having
a built-in display.

> > More importantly, it would give us a much cleaner complete Shakespeare!
> 

> So we want this one kept together and not broken up into individual plays?
> Okay. I'm never quite sure how that gets decided.

I'm pretty sure we'll want to keep with one eBook per item (per play,
anyway.... sonnets have usually been a single volume together).  "Complete"
would be a collection of separate PG eBook #s.
  -- Greg

> -Bob
> [0] Not to mention the different input methods... a lot of the older e-ink
> devices have no touch screen or mouse equivalents, and are strictly menu
> based because of the slow refresh.


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