Re: Varney the Vampire

Adair <[email protected]> Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:32:11 -0800
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Re: Varney the Vampire

This reprint 3 vol reprint is at MLK Library in San Jose, CA - maybe
clearable; would need to check actual copy.

http://catalog.sjlibrary.org/search~/a?searchtype=t&searcharg=Varney+the+Vampire+&SORT=D&searchscope=1

Dianna
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>    1. Comments... (Ken Arromdee)
>    2. Image sizes (James Simmons)
>    3. Re: Varney the Vampire (was Comments...) (Al Haines)
>    4. Re: Image sizes (Al Haines)
>    5. Re: Image sizes (James Simmons)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: [email protected] (Ken Arromdee)
> To: gutvol-d-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected]
> Cc:
> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:35:37 -0800
> Subject: [gutvol-d] Comments...
> Hi.  I originally just wanted to look in the list archives to see if this
> has
> already been discussed but I had to subscribe first for that.  I decided
> I'd
> post after all.  Apologies if this is the wrong list but it's the best
> list I
> could find.
>
> Anyway, my comment was that when reading books from Gutenberg that have
> images,
> the images seem awfully small.
>
> Searching the website brings up
>
>
> http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:Public_Domain_eBook_Submission_How-To
>
>     Don't try to keep the highest resolution possible — for HTML, we
> typically presume 96 DPI (dots per inch) with 256 colors, which is a
> "medium" resolution.
>
> http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:HTML_FAQ
>
>     If you're an experienced HTML maker, you know this stuff; if you're
> not, take it as a guideline that you should generally aim to keep your
> images in the 40K to 60K size range...
>
>     Since most people will be viewing these images in a browser on a
> screen with a resolution below or around 1000 pixels wide, you should
> mostly make your images not much wider than 600 pixels.
>
> The same images that people use in HTML end up used in epub, and this FAQ
> is so
> old that it encourages people to use images that are absurdly small by
> modern
> standards.  On my 264 DPI tablet, 600 pixels is somewhat over 2 inches
> wide.
> I suggest changing the suggested image size to be less 2004.  The DPI and
> width should be at least doubled, if not more.  I know, they're suggestions
> and you're not going to reject a book for having bigger images, but even
> optional suggestions have a big effect on what people do.  You may as well
> suggest that people keep their file size limited to that which fits on a
> 5 1/4 inch floppy disk.
>
> (You also ought to increase the size of every image you already have, but I
> can't even imagine how much work it would be to do that to thousands of
> books.)
>
> Other comments: Someone mentioned errata being a problem.  I tried
> submitting
> two errata for a Jules Verne book.  The first was a simple typo and was
> accepted, so it is possible to send in an erratum.  The second turned out
> to
> be in the source material and was rejected because of that....
>
> Jules Verne is also a problem because certain translations are notorious
> for
> poor quality and PG may not necessarily have the best public domain
> translation.
>
> I also looked for a copy of Varney the Vampire on PG.  You have one, but
> it's a shortened edition that doesn't include all the chapters.  There is a
> version with all the chapters online at University of Virgina Library
> (though
> with missing images).  I have no idea how to report this.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: James Simmons <[email protected]>
> To: Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion <gutvol-d-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected]>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:27:38 -0600
> Subject: [gutvol-d] Image sizes
> Not all PG books have the problem. Have a look at:
>
> http://www.gutenberg.org/files/36378/36378-h/36378-h.htm
>
> This was one of my submissions.
>
> It may be that the books with small images are older submissions. This one
> from 2004 could use larger illustrations:
>
> http://www.gutenberg.org/files/14384/14384-h/14384-h.htm
>
> James Simmons
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Ken Arromdee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi.  I originally just wanted to look in the list archives to see if this
>> has
>> already been discussed but I had to subscribe first for that.  I decided
>> I'd
>> post after all.  Apologies if this is the wrong list but it's the best
>> list I
>> could find.
>>
>> Anyway, my comment was that when reading books from Gutenberg that have
>> images,
>> the images seem awfully small.
>>
>> Searching the website brings up
>>
>>
>> http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:Public_Domain_eBook_Submission_How-To
>>
>>     Don't try to keep the highest resolution possible — for HTML, we
>> typically presume 96 DPI (dots per inch) with 256 colors, which is a
>> "medium" resolution.
>>
>> http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:HTML_FAQ
>>
>>     If you're an experienced HTML maker, you know this stuff; if you're
>> not, take it as a guideline that you should generally aim to keep your
>> images in the 40K to 60K size range...
>>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Al Haines" <[email protected]>
> To: "'Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion'" <gutvol-d-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected]>,
> "'Ken Arromdee'" <[email protected]>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 14:41:19 -0800
> Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] Varney the Vampire (was Comments...)
> PG's version (http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/14833) clearly states in
> its Transcriber's Note that it does not include the entire 109 chapters.
>
> As for the University of Virginia version, it appears to exist only as
> an HTML version, without source page scans.  (Google "varney vampire
> university virginia", without the quotes.)
>
> Harvesting it for PG would be problematic without title page and verso
> scans to establish its publication as being before 1923.  UofV seems to
> have used a 1970  Arno Press reprint.
>
> There's no source edition in Internet Archive, only the PG version.
>
>
> Al
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gutvol-d-bounces-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected]
> > [mailto:gutvol-d-bounces-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Arromdee
> > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 7:36 PM
> > To: gutvol-d-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected]
> > Subject: [gutvol-d] Comments...
> >
> >
> > Hi.  I originally just wanted to look in the list archives to
> > see if this has already been discussed but I had to subscribe
> > first for that.  I decided I'd post after all.  Apologies if
> > this is the wrong list but it's the best list I could find.
> >
> > Anyway, my comment was that when reading books from Gutenberg
> > that have images, the images seem awfully small.
> >
> > Searching the website brings up
> >
> > http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:Public_Domain_eBook_Su
> > bmission_How-To
> >
> >     Don't try to keep the highest resolution possible - for
> > HTML, we typically presume 96 DPI (dots per inch) with 256
> > colors, which is a "medium" resolution.
> >
> http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:HTML_FAQ
>
>     If you're an experienced HTML maker, you know this stuff; if you're
> not, take it as a guideline that you should generally aim to keep your
> images in the 40K to 60K size range...
>
>     Since most people will be viewing these images in a browser on a
> screen with a resolution below or around 1000 pixels wide, you should
> mostly make your images not much wider than 600 pixels.
>
> The same images that people use in HTML end up used in epub, and this
> FAQ is so old that it encourages people to use images that are absurdly
> small by modern standards.  On my 264 DPI tablet, 600 pixels is somewhat
> over 2 inches wide. I suggest changing the suggested image size to be
> less 2004.  The DPI and width should be at least doubled, if not more.
> I know, they're suggestions and you're not going to reject a book for
> having bigger images, but even optional suggestions have a big effect on
> what people do.  You may as well suggest that people keep their file
> size limited to that which fits on a 5 1/4 inch floppy disk.
>
> (You also ought to increase the size of every image you already have,
> but I can't even imagine how much work it would be to do that to
> thousands of books.)
>
> Other comments: Someone mentioned errata being a problem.  I tried
> submitting two errata for a Jules Verne book.  The first was a simple
> typo and was accepted, so it is possible to send in an erratum.  The
> second turned out to be in the source material and was rejected because
> of that....
>
> Jules Verne is also a problem because certain translations are notorious
> for poor quality and PG may not necessarily have the best public domain
> translation.
>
> I also looked for a copy of Varney the Vampire on PG.  You have one, but
>
> it's a shortened edition that doesn't include all the chapters.  There
> is a version with all the chapters online at University of Virgina
> Library (though with missing images).  I have no idea how to report
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Al Haines" <[email protected]>
> To: "'Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion'" <gutvol-d-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected]>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 14:51:19 -0800
> Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] Image sizes
>  Actually, 14384 has images in two sizes.  The displayed version is
> clickable, displaying a larger version.
>
> Al
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* gutvol-d-bounces-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected] [mailto:
> gutvol-d-bounces-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *James Simmons
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2014 2:28 PM
> *To:* Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion
> *Subject:* [gutvol-d] Image sizes
>
> Not all PG books have the problem. Have a look at:
>
> http://www.gutenberg.org/files/36378/36378-h/36378-h.htm
>
> This was one of my submissions.
>
> It may be that the books with small images are older submissions. This one
> from 2004 could use larger illustrations:
>
> http://www.gutenberg.org/files/14384/14384-h/14384-h.htm
>
> James Simmons
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Ken Arromdee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi.  I originally just wanted to look in the list archives to see if this
>> has
>> already been discussed but I had to subscribe first for that.  I decided
>> I'd
>> post after all.  Apologies if this is the wrong list but it's the best
>> list I
>> could find.
>>
>> Anyway, my comment was that when reading books from Gutenberg that have
>> images,
>> the images seem awfully small.
>>
>> Searching the website brings up
>>
>>
>> http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:Public_Domain_eBook_Submission_How-To
>>
>>     Don't try to keep the highest resolution possible — for HTML, we
>> typically presume 96 DPI (dots per inch) with 256 colors, which is a
>> "medium" resolution.
>>
>> http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:HTML_FAQ
>>
>>     If you're an experienced HTML maker, you know this stuff; if you're
>> not, take it as a guideline that you should generally aim to keep your
>> images in the 40K to 60K size range...
>>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: James Simmons <[email protected]>
> To: Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion <gutvol-d-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected]>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:20:27 -0600
> Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] Image sizes
> Al,
>
> I didn't realize that. Unfortunately, I would guess that the EPUB and MOBI
> versions only contain the smaller images, or if the larger images are
> included there is no way to view them on a Kindle.
>
> James Simmons
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Al Haines <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Actually, 14384 has images in two sizes.  The displayed version is
>> clickable, displaying a larger version.
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* gutvol-d-bounces-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected] [mailto:
>> gutvol-d-bounces-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *James Simmons
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2014 2:28 PM
>> *To:* Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion
>> *Subject:* [gutvol-d] Image sizes
>>
>> Not all PG books have the problem. Have a look at:
>>
>> http://www.gutenberg.org/files/36378/36378-h/36378-h.htm
>>
>> This was one of my submissions.
>>
>> It may be that the books with small images are older submissions. This
>> one from 2004 could use larger illustrations:
>>
>> http://www.gutenberg.org/files/14384/14384-h/14384-h.htm
>>
>> James Simmons
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Ken Arromdee <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi.  I originally just wanted to look in the list archives to see if
>>> this has
>>> already been discussed but I had to subscribe first for that.  I decided
>>> I'd
>>> post after all.  Apologies if this is the wrong list but it's the best
>>> list I
>>> could find.
>>>
>>> Anyway, my comment was that when reading books from Gutenberg that have
>>> images,
>>> the images seem awfully small.
>>>
>>> Searching the website brings up
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:Public_Domain_eBook_Submission_How-To
>>>
>>>     Don't try to keep the highest resolution possible — for HTML, we
>>> typically presume 96 DPI (dots per inch) with 256 colors, which is a
>>> "medium" resolution.
>>>
>>> http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:HTML_FAQ
>>>
>>>     If you're an experienced HTML maker, you know this stuff; if you're
>>> not, take it as a guideline that you should generally aim to keep your
>>> images in the 40K to 60K size range...
>>>
>>
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