Re: Varney the Vampire
Adair <[email protected]> Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:32:11 -0800
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Re: Varney the Vampire This reprint 3 vol reprint is at MLK Library in San Jose, CA - maybe clearable; would need to check actual copy. http://catalog.sjlibrary.org/search~/a?searchtype=t&searcharg=Varney+the+Vampire+&SORT=D&searchscope=1 Dianna On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 3:17 PM, <gutvol-d-request-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected]> wrote: > Send gutvol-d mailing list submissions to > gutvol-d-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.pglaf.org/mailman/listinfo/gutvol-d > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > gutvol-d-request-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > gutvol-d-owner-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of gutvol-d digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Comments... (Ken Arromdee) > 2. Image sizes (James Simmons) > 3. Re: Varney the Vampire (was Comments...) (Al Haines) > 4. Re: Image sizes (Al Haines) > 5. Re: Image sizes (James Simmons) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: [email protected] (Ken Arromdee) > To: gutvol-d-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected] > Cc: > Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:35:37 -0800 > Subject: [gutvol-d] Comments... > Hi. I originally just wanted to look in the list archives to see if this > has > already been discussed but I had to subscribe first for that. I decided > I'd > post after all. Apologies if this is the wrong list but it's the best > list I > could find. > > Anyway, my comment was that when reading books from Gutenberg that have > images, > the images seem awfully small. > > Searching the website brings up > > > http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:Public_Domain_eBook_Submission_How-To > > Don't try to keep the highest resolution possible — for HTML, we > typically presume 96 DPI (dots per inch) with 256 colors, which is a > "medium" resolution. > > http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:HTML_FAQ > > If you're an experienced HTML maker, you know this stuff; if you're > not, take it as a guideline that you should generally aim to keep your > images in the 40K to 60K size range... > > Since most people will be viewing these images in a browser on a > screen with a resolution below or around 1000 pixels wide, you should > mostly make your images not much wider than 600 pixels. > > The same images that people use in HTML end up used in epub, and this FAQ > is so > old that it encourages people to use images that are absurdly small by > modern > standards. On my 264 DPI tablet, 600 pixels is somewhat over 2 inches > wide. > I suggest changing the suggested image size to be less 2004. The DPI and > width should be at least doubled, if not more. I know, they're suggestions > and you're not going to reject a book for having bigger images, but even > optional suggestions have a big effect on what people do. You may as well > suggest that people keep their file size limited to that which fits on a > 5 1/4 inch floppy disk. > > (You also ought to increase the size of every image you already have, but I > can't even imagine how much work it would be to do that to thousands of > books.) > > Other comments: Someone mentioned errata being a problem. I tried > submitting > two errata for a Jules Verne book. The first was a simple typo and was > accepted, so it is possible to send in an erratum. The second turned out > to > be in the source material and was rejected because of that.... > > Jules Verne is also a problem because certain translations are notorious > for > poor quality and PG may not necessarily have the best public domain > translation. > > I also looked for a copy of Varney the Vampire on PG. You have one, but > it's a shortened edition that doesn't include all the chapters. There is a > version with all the chapters online at University of Virgina Library > (though > with missing images). I have no idea how to report this. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: James Simmons <[email protected]> > To: Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion <gutvol-d-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:27:38 -0600 > Subject: [gutvol-d] Image sizes > Not all PG books have the problem. Have a look at: > > http://www.gutenberg.org/files/36378/36378-h/36378-h.htm > > This was one of my submissions. > > It may be that the books with small images are older submissions. This one > from 2004 could use larger illustrations: > > http://www.gutenberg.org/files/14384/14384-h/14384-h.htm > > James Simmons > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Ken Arromdee <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi. I originally just wanted to look in the list archives to see if this >> has >> already been discussed but I had to subscribe first for that. I decided >> I'd >> post after all. Apologies if this is the wrong list but it's the best >> list I >> could find. >> >> Anyway, my comment was that when reading books from Gutenberg that have >> images, >> the images seem awfully small. >> >> Searching the website brings up >> >> >> http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:Public_Domain_eBook_Submission_How-To >> >> Don't try to keep the highest resolution possible — for HTML, we >> typically presume 96 DPI (dots per inch) with 256 colors, which is a >> "medium" resolution. >> >> http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:HTML_FAQ >> >> If you're an experienced HTML maker, you know this stuff; if you're >> not, take it as a guideline that you should generally aim to keep your >> images in the 40K to 60K size range... >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Al Haines" <[email protected]> > To: "'Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion'" <gutvol-d-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected]>, > "'Ken Arromdee'" <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 14:41:19 -0800 > Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] Varney the Vampire (was Comments...) > PG's version (http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/14833) clearly states in > its Transcriber's Note that it does not include the entire 109 chapters. > > As for the University of Virginia version, it appears to exist only as > an HTML version, without source page scans. (Google "varney vampire > university virginia", without the quotes.) > > Harvesting it for PG would be problematic without title page and verso > scans to establish its publication as being before 1923. UofV seems to > have used a 1970 Arno Press reprint. > > There's no source edition in Internet Archive, only the PG version. > > > Al > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: gutvol-d-bounces-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected] > > [mailto:gutvol-d-bounces-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Arromdee > > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 7:36 PM > > To: gutvol-d-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected] > > Subject: [gutvol-d] Comments... > > > > > > Hi. I originally just wanted to look in the list archives to > > see if this has already been discussed but I had to subscribe > > first for that. I decided I'd post after all. Apologies if > > this is the wrong list but it's the best list I could find. > > > > Anyway, my comment was that when reading books from Gutenberg > > that have images, the images seem awfully small. > > > > Searching the website brings up > > > > http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:Public_Domain_eBook_Su > > bmission_How-To > > > > Don't try to keep the highest resolution possible - for > > HTML, we typically presume 96 DPI (dots per inch) with 256 > > colors, which is a "medium" resolution. > > > http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:HTML_FAQ > > If you're an experienced HTML maker, you know this stuff; if you're > not, take it as a guideline that you should generally aim to keep your > images in the 40K to 60K size range... > > Since most people will be viewing these images in a browser on a > screen with a resolution below or around 1000 pixels wide, you should > mostly make your images not much wider than 600 pixels. > > The same images that people use in HTML end up used in epub, and this > FAQ is so old that it encourages people to use images that are absurdly > small by modern standards. On my 264 DPI tablet, 600 pixels is somewhat > over 2 inches wide. I suggest changing the suggested image size to be > less 2004. The DPI and width should be at least doubled, if not more. > I know, they're suggestions and you're not going to reject a book for > having bigger images, but even optional suggestions have a big effect on > what people do. You may as well suggest that people keep their file > size limited to that which fits on a 5 1/4 inch floppy disk. > > (You also ought to increase the size of every image you already have, > but I can't even imagine how much work it would be to do that to > thousands of books.) > > Other comments: Someone mentioned errata being a problem. I tried > submitting two errata for a Jules Verne book. The first was a simple > typo and was accepted, so it is possible to send in an erratum. The > second turned out to be in the source material and was rejected because > of that.... > > Jules Verne is also a problem because certain translations are notorious > for poor quality and PG may not necessarily have the best public domain > translation. > > I also looked for a copy of Varney the Vampire on PG. You have one, but > > it's a shortened edition that doesn't include all the chapters. There > is a version with all the chapters online at University of Virgina > Library (though with missing images). I have no idea how to report > this. _______________________________________________ > gutvol-d mailing list > gutvol-d-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected] > http://lists.pglaf.org/mailman/listinfo/gutvol-d > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Al Haines" <[email protected]> > To: "'Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion'" <gutvol-d-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 14:51:19 -0800 > Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] Image sizes > Actually, 14384 has images in two sizes. The displayed version is > clickable, displaying a larger version. > > Al > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* gutvol-d-bounces-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected] [mailto: > gutvol-d-bounces-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *James Simmons > *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2014 2:28 PM > *To:* Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion > *Subject:* [gutvol-d] Image sizes > > Not all PG books have the problem. Have a look at: > > http://www.gutenberg.org/files/36378/36378-h/36378-h.htm > > This was one of my submissions. > > It may be that the books with small images are older submissions. This one > from 2004 could use larger illustrations: > > http://www.gutenberg.org/files/14384/14384-h/14384-h.htm > > James Simmons > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Ken Arromdee <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi. I originally just wanted to look in the list archives to see if this >> has >> already been discussed but I had to subscribe first for that. I decided >> I'd >> post after all. Apologies if this is the wrong list but it's the best >> list I >> could find. >> >> Anyway, my comment was that when reading books from Gutenberg that have >> images, >> the images seem awfully small. >> >> Searching the website brings up >> >> >> http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:Public_Domain_eBook_Submission_How-To >> >> Don't try to keep the highest resolution possible — for HTML, we >> typically presume 96 DPI (dots per inch) with 256 colors, which is a >> "medium" resolution. >> >> http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:HTML_FAQ >> >> If you're an experienced HTML maker, you know this stuff; if you're >> not, take it as a guideline that you should generally aim to keep your >> images in the 40K to 60K size range... >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: James Simmons <[email protected]> > To: Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion <gutvol-d-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:20:27 -0600 > Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] Image sizes > Al, > > I didn't realize that. Unfortunately, I would guess that the EPUB and MOBI > versions only contain the smaller images, or if the larger images are > included there is no way to view them on a Kindle. > > James Simmons > > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Al Haines <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Actually, 14384 has images in two sizes. The displayed version is >> clickable, displaying a larger version. >> >> Al >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> *From:* gutvol-d-bounces-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected] [mailto: >> gutvol-d-bounces-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *James Simmons >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2014 2:28 PM >> *To:* Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion >> *Subject:* [gutvol-d] Image sizes >> >> Not all PG books have the problem. Have a look at: >> >> http://www.gutenberg.org/files/36378/36378-h/36378-h.htm >> >> This was one of my submissions. >> >> It may be that the books with small images are older submissions. This >> one from 2004 could use larger illustrations: >> >> http://www.gutenberg.org/files/14384/14384-h/14384-h.htm >> >> James Simmons >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Ken Arromdee <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi. I originally just wanted to look in the list archives to see if >>> this has >>> already been discussed but I had to subscribe first for that. I decided >>> I'd >>> post after all. Apologies if this is the wrong list but it's the best >>> list I >>> could find. >>> >>> Anyway, my comment was that when reading books from Gutenberg that have >>> images, >>> the images seem awfully small. >>> >>> Searching the website brings up >>> >>> >>> http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:Public_Domain_eBook_Submission_How-To >>> >>> Don't try to keep the highest resolution possible — for HTML, we >>> typically presume 96 DPI (dots per inch) with 256 colors, which is a >>> "medium" resolution. >>> >>> http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:HTML_FAQ >>> >>> If you're an experienced HTML maker, you know this stuff; if you're >>> not, take it as a guideline that you should generally aim to keep your >>> images in the 40K to 60K size range... >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> gutvol-d mailing list >> gutvol-d-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected] >> http://lists.pglaf.org/mailman/listinfo/gutvol-d >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > gutvol-d mailing list > gutvol-d-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected] > http://lists.pglaf.org/mailman/listinfo/gutvol-d > > _______________________________________________ gutvol-d mailing list gutvol-d-4LCm/o+qPMZ96Xl/[email protected] http://lists.pglaf.org/mailman/listinfo/gutvol-d