RE: Fooled again! eBooks and truth in labelling

"Arnold Bailey" <[email protected]>
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The Dublin Core standard already exists. What would you need that it doesn't
cover.

http://dublincore.org/

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kent S. Larsen II
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [ebook-community] Fooled again! eBooks and truth in labelling

At 5:15 PM -0500 2/7/08, Brenna Lyons wrote:
>Alternate pen name, if it was released under another, previously.
>Don't laugh...I've seen it done. An author changes pen names or drops
>one of two pen names and re-releases books under a new pen name. Makes
>the head hurt.
>
>ANY OTHER RESTRICTIONS... Some publishers have certain PDF features
>turned off...cannot be printed, cannot be copied and pasted, cannot be
>reformatted to PDF for Palm... You get the idea. I'd certainly like to
>know if something can't be converted to PDF for Palm, since that
>affects how I can read it.
>
>Oh, and I'd change that first publication date to something more
>useful to me. New work, reprint, expanded version, etc. If it's an
>anthology of previously-released stories or an expanded version of
>something released before, there should be enough room on the line to
>give the particulars. Since I do this, as well (especially expanded
>versions and anthologies of older works, perhaps with new stories in
>the mix), I feel it's important to be up front with readers about it.
>
>I'd also add specific ratings or warnings, depending on the genre.
>This is common on sensual/erotic publisher sites, but it's not so
>popular elsewhere. I think it should be. I've always placed warnings
>on books, even if they aren't erotic. For instance, since I write a
>lot of dark romance genre (not to be confused with romance genre) or
>dark fantasy/horror, I have a rating system and/or warnings to say WHY
>something is dark. When I sent FAIRY DREAMS out for reviews, I put
>topicality warnings on for the reviewers, because it was dark fantasy.
>Some see romance and don't realize that, even if it's not dark
>romance, it can be dark on the fantasy side.
>
>Brenna
>--



It seems like this thread is headed towards defining a title information
exchange format.

We talked a bit about how this could be useful on Book Futures
([email protected]), and I think I'll post again now on this
subject.

The physical book industry has evolved just such a standard (its called
Onyx, it is between 5 and 10 years old, iirc), after working with a variety
of mechanisms that give book information over the years (library cataloging
standards, the data transfer standards used by Ingram Book and B&T, etc.)
Together, these standards mean that large bookstore chains and online stores
can collect information about nearly every book with a US-sourced ISBN.

As we discussed on Book Futures, the lack of this kind of information is one
of the reasons that online ebook retailers don't offer so much of what is
available, and what they do list lacks all the information that might be
desired, as Jon Jermey observes.


So, if you want to continue this exercise, may I suggest that it be done
with an eye towards developing an Onyx-like standard? Something that allows
ebook producers, reviewers and retailers to exchange the basic information
about a title?

Kent




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