RWA's latest
Marion Gropen <[email protected]>
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On Mar 19, 2008, at 7:40 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Given how Tsaba House reps are acting, I suspect it might have an > overall negeative effect. Some of their statement suggest a weak > grasp of basic industry distinction such as RWA per se versus RWA > chapter events, and several contractual issues. At this point I am > not even sure that they aren't vanity myself at this point. > > If the dispute had been an actual RWA contest and a reputable, well- > known small press it might have been different. > Unfortunately, the issues have been complex, and the coverage unclear. I have watched Pam and Tsaba since the founding of the press, and have some idea of what's happening, although I'm not directly involved (nor has Tsaba ever been a client or closer than a Net acquaintance -- I don't really have a dog in this fight.) Tsaba publishes non-fiction and several kinds of fiction, all with a Christian perspective. They are definitely a classic small press on the growth path. Their books have gotten astonishingly good press and sales, and they have never charged an author a dime, AFAIK. They have a standard contract that has CYA language in it, to cover them if the author turns is a total mess. It basically says that if the author can't provide all the necessary pieces in some usable form, then Tsaba has the option of getting a pro in to fix it, and charge the author for the cost. NB: most publishers at that point don't do so -- they bounce the author and sue (or write off) for the advance paid to date. One of their authors entered 3 chapter awards. She's a charter member of the RWA, too, btw. She is in the finals in one, but she was kicked out of another because the local told her that the national organization told them to do so. Tsaba isn't approved. Author goes to Tsaba, Tsaba asks RWA what they have to do to fix this. RWA says send your basic contract, and Tsaba does. RWA cluelessly assumes that things like industry-standard indexing clauses signal subsidy, and tells Tsaba so. Also slaps them in the face with gratuitous insults. Pam, understanding the source of the confusion, tries to help them see their mistake, and goes so far as to include a list of IP attorneys that they can consult to verify her information. They reply very dismissively, and again in ways that I would have found insulting. Pam is not a person to slap around, so she consults a lawyer about possible remedies, especially for the defamatory vanity/subsidy press label. When she tells her circle, they're outraged, and the news spreads, because, you see, she IS well-known and reputable. A number of IP attorneys, PW reporters, Foreword and BookBusiness columnists and editors, etc. have weighed in, but the RWA is still seeing this solely in their own frame of reference. If they said, we still don't want you in our contests because of . . . ., but we understand fully that these aren't unusual contract terms in the industry as a whole, and that you aren't a vanity press, it would all go away. They don't seem to see this. It's going to hurt them more than it hurts Tsaba, I think. Marion Gropen Gropen Associates, Inc. By-The-Question Consulting, Tools for Publishers, & Classes www.GropenAssoc.com Her blog: www.GropenAssoc.com/blog ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------ Post a message: ebook-community [[at]] * Unsubscribe: ebook-community-unsubscribe [[at]] * Switch to digest: ebook-community-digest [[at]] * Switch to normal: ebook-community-normal [[at]] * Put mail on hold: ebook-community-nomail [[at]] * Administrator: ebook-community-owner [[at]] * (* == yahoogroups.com) -------------------------------------------------------Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ebook-community/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ebook-community/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[email protected] mailto:ebook-community-fullfeatured-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ebook-community-unsubscribe-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/