Re: Digest Number 3199

--- In [email protected], Marion Gropen 
<Marion.Gropen@...> wrote:
> That's a standard writers' group generalization. It's wrong. I'm  
> sorry to be so blunt, and it's not normally my style, but this is 
a  
> common myth.

I really don't think so.  I may be "only" small press published but 
my opinions were molded mainly by publishers.  They told me I 
shouldn't pay them money in order to get puiblished.  I though that 
sounded like a damn good idea ;)

> I have NEVER seen a large publishers' contract that didn't include  
> consequences for writers who screw up the process in a big way for  
> all concerned.

I am thinking of what is routine assuming both published and author 
do what they should.  i.e. if thing go to plan will I pay.  
For "traditional publishing" I would say: no.  Not only not pay the 
whole bill, or most of the bill, but not pay at all.

When recently discussing a press that charged authors for cover art I 
found it was not only authors who disagreed with this, but also other 
publishers and readers.

The fee in question with Tsaba (can someone confirm it exists?) seems 
not a consequence of failure on the part of the author, but routine.

I am talking about routine fees not 'no author should ever pay 
anything even if they default on the terms of the contract'.

> Because you, and almost all other authors, aren't that kind of  
> person, you'll also see why these things don't  impinge upon the  
> writers' zeitgeist.

In fact I wasn't thinking about that issue at all.  

> The fact that no reasonable person causes these things to be 
invoked  
> doesn't mean that you don't need them in a contract.

Did anyone suggest otherwise?  Is this what Tsaba does.  Because I 
thought it was a routine fee as part of honoring the contract, not a 
penalty for failing to.  

Perhaps someone can say what exactly, if anything, Tsaba does charge, 
and when.  It seems to be the bone of contention and I don't know 
what bone it is.  Some people here seem familar with Tsaba which i am 
not.  What exactly is this fee?




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