Re: Re: "Why It's Wrong To Call Copyright Infringement 'Theft'"

On 22/04/2012 14:08, Bryce Anderson wrote:
> Tangibility isn't the defining feature here.  Non-rivalrousness is.  Personal identity is by its nature a rivalrous good, where if you use mine it makes me responsible for the financial and legal consequences for your actions.  In a more abstract sense, the more people using an identity, the less value that identity has for its intended purpose: identifying a single person.
>
> So I would argue that the similarities here are only superficial.
>
>   
> Bryce Anderson

Hullo Bryce, Good to see you are still about to split hairs.

I think you are confusing personal identity with the trappings of 
personal identity in the digital age. That is, of course, while- and 
perhaps why - you have moved the goal posts. :-)

Tangibility and intangibility are facts rather than attributes. The 
normal argument is about ownership, and whether the same rules of 
ownership can apply to both as property. Non-rivalrousness needs 
definition; but I'll assume you are looking at something to do with 
adaptability by another. That would be merely fraudulent usage, and 
gives no liability to the real owner. Like all situations that can be 
argued, the issue of responsibility needs proof, and that is true for 
all instances of contest.

The value of identity is not financial; goods and monies may accrue to a 
person, and they may be regarded as belonging to that individual. But 
whether those possessions exist or not has no effect on the personal 
identity. Otherwise you might say all the people named Joseph Harris 
[and there are many] share one personal identity. I trust that is an 
obvious nonsense.

The original issue, the comparability of copyright with personal 
identity in the general context of property, is not touched by your 
objection.

Joseph Harris


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