Re: Re: Copyright Expiration ?

"But what worries me most is an assumption, following very intense
campaigning by Google, that there is some "orphan" problem. "

Well, in my job (university teaching), orphan works have been a problem.
When a copyright holder can't be located, I can't assign the work to my
students because I can't be sure they can obtain it. They can't buy it, I
can't include it in a coursepack, etc. I could put a single copy on reserve
in the campus library, but these days, many courses are offered online and
the students live too far away to go there.

Perhaps what is a problem for educators is a boon for others--perhaps the
benefits outweigh the drawbacks overall--but that doesn't make it less of a
problem for educators.

Beth


On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 5:39 PM, joseph h <joe9438-/[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On 02/08/2012 4:11 PM, Beth Young wrote:
> >
> > I am intrigued by the idea of taking into consideration how long a
> > book has
> > been out of print as well as life of the author plus X years.
> >
> <snip>
> >
> > (Plus that creates an incentive for works to not get published during the
> > copyright period).
> >
> > But it's an interesting idea that helps tackle the orphan works problem.
> >
> > Beth
> >
>
> Beth,
>
> One point I often make is that each of us knows only a tiny corner of
> the publishing industry. It is vast and varied and exists in most
> countries in the world. It is also international and the
> inter-relationships complex. Though some corners have seen dramatic
> changes in delivery and price systems and levels the industry,
> fundamentally, is not that much changed.
>
> Also it is a sad truth for authors that most works never used to get
> published, and that may still be true for the majority.
>
> But what worries me most is an assumption, following very intense
> campaigning by Google, that there is some "orphan" problem. The reason
> it worries me is that the only protection for creative writing is
> copyright. Copyright only gives each originator control over the copies
> of their own works. Undermine that and copyright is dead, and incentives
> for creators all but disappear.
>
> The problem over  "orphans" is that it is impossible to define them;
> because of that it becomes easy for one who wishes to take another's
> work to claim he thought it was an "orphan". I do urge you, and others
> who think there is some problem over works not available at a particular
> point, to think very carefully about the implications of any "orphan"
> permissions.
>
> Joseph Harris
>
>
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