Re: Clocktrain wind up work?

Monica Belevan <[email protected]> Thu, 27 Jun 2002 07:27:26 -0700 (PDT)
Newsgroups gmane.culture.literature.thomas-pynchon
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I worked in film for a couple of years, and it was always said TS was ACO of the 90´s. That itself sounds, in some subliminal way, like a depurated version of something, a Clockwork Orange, super light. And it wasn´t even that.

The TS film was fun--not great. But fun. I feel the toilet scene was nipped from Gravity´s Rainbow and the dead baby was a reedition of the deathh of Rocamadour in Rayuela. More where those came from, but I only watched it once, and on several shots of pisco. 

As for the Kubrick, its fierce and lyrical, and if TS is it´s nonfattening version, then I suddenly look like Lauren Bacall...

As for the novels...I don´t see the real link either. Burguess is brazen and daunting where Welsh is ninetiesh and sensationalistic.

Love, Monica

 
--- Dave Monroe <[email protected]> wrote:
>Er, perhaps I might rewrite the equation thus ...
>
>(teenage ultraviolence + heroin) x Japanese = ...
>
>Throw in rock 'n' roll and zombies and you get Wild
>Zero (dir. Tetsuro Takeuchi, 2000) ...
>
>http://us.imdb.com/Title?0267116
>
>http://www.gaga.ne.jp/movie/wildzero/
>
>--- Monica Belevan <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> 
>> Now that we´re at it: where did this alleged
>> fraternity between Clockwork and Trainspotting
>> start, and, who began it?
>
>Not me, I swear.  I suppose, though, it's simply the,
>er, entertainingly/disturbingly fucked-up teen angle
>(Suburbia [dir. Penelope Spheeris, 1984] or Kids,
>anyone?  And I, er, enjoyed Larry Clark's Bully [2001]
>as well--Big Dumb Kids ...).  But whilst I love
>Kubrick's film, am no fan of Boyle's.  Was thinking
>more (or less) Burgess and Welsh here, so ...
>
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