DO READ more on "Kabuki theatre" / DHS, etymology of "Heimatschutz" since Goeebels
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Begin forwarded message: From: Erich M <[email protected]> Date: October 7, 2006 6:27:50 AM EDT To: Bill Stewart <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IP] "Kabuki theatre" / DHS, etymology of "Heimatschutz" since Goeebels On Tue October 3 2006 02:41 Bill Stewart added to the bitstream: > > Here in America the department's name sounds that way too, > and it also has Stalinist "Motherland" connotations. > If you haven't drunk the neo-conservative Kool-Aid, > it's so utterly appalling that it's hard to say it, > and Godwin's Law says that if we were to actually > *tell* the neocons what they sound like, > we'd lose the discussion right there. Servus Bill, Sorry for being late. That is the point: Choosing such a name led to a PR disaster amongst the 95 million Europeans speaking German. > > Don't be polite on our account :-) I must be. So much of good cross/atlantic relations heve been shattered. In Europe Anti-Americanism is growing and that is dangerous. Criticism of US politics based on rational arguments is one thing. But the kakophonic choir from the right is gaining momentum here: dull, stupid Anti-Americanism based on prejudices. The gist: "Americans are a bunch of superficial, greedy and hypocritical trigger-happy cowboys without culture". Many traditional leftists do not sound very much different, alas. It is us who have to raise our voices against that here. This is the dilemma you face if you are a freedom loving European. Before 9/11 transatlantic contacts between European civil liberty groups and the US was excellent. German, Austrian and civil liberty avantguardists like quintessenz.org from all over Europe regularly met with guys like Barry Steinhardt [ACLU] Jim Dempsey [CDT] Marc Rotenberg [EPIC] and numerus EFF people from 1997 onwards. This was of incredible value to us. The US guys already had experience and they shared that experience with us who had much less. They knew how to raise fundings and they organized conferences. They helped out with everything we could not manage during the humble beginnings of a European cyber/civil liberties movement. The howling of the sirens for the "war on terror" put those special relations on hold. Contacts were frozen, almost immediately - an instance, we all deeply regret. Greetz from Freud's Own City, Vienna Erich Moechel -- pgp-Key http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE386BAA1