Blowing up all usage metrics to date...

David Farber <[email protected]> Sat, 6 Jan 2007 12:33:09 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.culture.people.interesting-people
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From: Dewayne Hendricks <[email protected]>
Date: January 6, 2007 8:11:58 AM EST
To: Dewayne-Net Technology List <[email protected]>
Subject: [Dewayne-Net] Blowing up all usage metrics to date...
Reply-To: [email protected]

[Note:  This item comes from reader Thomas Leavitt.  Then again, some=20=20
would call this a new opportunity.  DLH]

From: Thomas Leavitt <[email protected]>
Date: January 5, 2007 10:56:06 PM PST
To: Dewayne Hendricks <[email protected]>
Subject: Blowing up all usage metrics to date...

This is pertinent to the previous thread of discussion about whether=20=20
next generation P2P video networks are going to create chaos on the=20=20
backbone... imagine the impact if even 10% of a typical ISP's user=20=20
base started using this program and leaving it on continuously in the=20=20
background...

Thomas

> From: David Farber <[email protected]>
> Subject: Using Venice Project? Better get yourself a non-capping=20=20
> ISP...
> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:11:46 -0500
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>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: "D.H. van der Woude" <[email protected]>
> Date: January 5, 2007 11:06:31 AM EST
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Using Venice Project? Better get yourself a non-capping=20=20
> ISP...
>
>
> I am one of Venice' beta testers. Works like a charm,
> admittedly with a 20/1 Mbs ADSL2+ connection and
> a unlimited use ISP.
>
> Even at sub-DVD quality the data use is staggering...
>
> Venice Project would break many users' ISP conditions
> http://www.out-law.com/page-7604
> OUT-LAW News, 03/01/2007
>
> Internet television system The Venice Project could break users'=20=20
> monthly internet bandwith limits in hours, according to the team=20=20
> behind it.
>
> It downloads 320 megabytes (MB) per hour from users' computers,=20=20
> meaning that users could reach their monthly download limits in=20=20
> hours and that it could be unusable for bandwidth-capped users.
>
> The Venice Project is the new system being developed by Janus Friis=20=20
> and Niklas Zennstr=F6m, the Scandinavian entrepreneurs behind the=20=20
> revolutionary services Kazaa and Skype. It is currently being used=20=20
> by 6,000 beta testers and is due to be launched next year.
>
> The data transfer rate is revealed in the documentation sent to=20=20
> beta testers and the instructions make it very clear what the=20=20
> bandwidth requirements are so that users are not caught out.
>
> Under a banner saying 'Important notice for users with limits on=20=20
> their internet usage', the document says: "The Venice Project is a=20=20
> streaming video application, and so uses a relatively high amount=20=20
> of bandwidth per hour. One hour of viewing is 320MB downloaded and=20=20
> 105 Megabytes uploaded, which means that it will exhaust a 1=20=20
> Gigabyte cap in 10 hours. Also, the application continues to run in=20=20
> the background after you close the main window."
>
> "For this reason, if you pay for your bandwidth usage per megabyte=20=20
> or have your usage capped by your ISP, you should be careful to=20=20
> always exit the Venice Project client completely when you are=20=20
> finished watching it," says the document
>
> Many ISPs offer broadband connections which are unlimited to use by=20=20
> time, but have limits on the amount of data that can be transferred=20=20
> over the connection each month. Though limits are 'advisory' and=20=20
> not strict, users who regularly far exceed the limits break the=20=20
> terms of their deals.
>
> BT's most basic broadband package BT Total Broadband Package 1, for=20=20
> example, has a 2GB monthly 'usage guideline'. This would be reached=20=20
> after 20 hours of viewing.
>
> The software is also likely to transfer data even when not being=20=20
> used. The Venice system is going to run on a peer-to-peer (P2P)=20=20
> network, which means that users host and send the programmes to=20=20
> other users in an automated system.
>
> OUT-LAW has seen screenshots from the system and talked to one of=20=20
> the testers of it, who reports very favourably on its use. "This is=20=20
> going to be the one. I've used some of the other software out there=20=20
> and it's fine, but my dad could use this, they've just got it=20=20
> right," he said. "It looks great, you fire it up and in two minutes=20=20
> you're live, you're watching television."
>
> The source said that claims being made for the system being "near=20=20
> high definition" in terms of picture quality are wide of the mark.=20=20
> "It's not high definition. It's the same as normal television," he=20=20
> said.




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