Re: bootstrapping from COPY CON

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 07:57:24PM +0200, Dave Long wrote:

>> Using modern tools as cognitive aids (so I didn’t have to
>> hand-assemble) and to diagnose problems allowed me to do this in a few
>> hours.  It might have taken a few days in Sean’s scenario.
>
> Being the dinosaur that I am[0], I can partially explain why your  
> approach was not too far off.  Early PC's might have appeared to lack[1] 
> development tools, but circa 1982 I had access to a microcomputer  
> project (eventually killed by the PC's dominance), and although self- 

We shouldn't forget that Forth self-hosting was pretty widespread
at the time. Total footprint of a Forth environment (e.g. on a Novix
board) was under 2 k at the time.

> hosted tools did appear by the end of development, all of the initial  
> work was done in a timeshared unix environment: sources were edited and 
> cross-compiled on the mini(s) and the resulting executables transferred 
> to the micros.  No IDE's or mice, but they had full screen editors, 
> makefiles, and a gcc-like toolchain.  Set your xterm to 24x80 
> green-on-black[2] and the cross-compiling you were doing wouldn't be far 
> off at all from industry practice 30 years ago.

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