Re: Engineering rules of thumb and Amazon's HQ2 effort
"Joseph S. Barrera III" <[email protected]>
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> Back to working on software which is likely to last a substantially shorter time... The secret to writing long-lasting software? Write a crappy prototype that you'd be ashamed to put your name to. On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Ken Meltsner <[email protected]> wrote: > I suppose this should have been expected from an architect who got his > start designing cardboard furniture[1], but it may be more of a case > of "Frank Lloyd Wright"-ism -- great-looking buildings designed with > little attention to durability (esp. roofs) or maintainability, or in > many cases, usability. > > Here in Portland we have an iconic Michael Graves building which has > never been well-liked and needs extensive interior and exterior work. > [2] > > Back to working on software which is likely to last a substantially > shorter time... > > Ken > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easy_Edges > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland_Building > > On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 6:06 AM, Gregory Alan Bolcer <[email protected]> > wrote: > > My "award winning" office building at UCI for a lot of years was > disposable. > > They built it and then tore it down not soon after. > > > > Greg > > > > http://www.ocregister.com/2007/01/23/gehry-building-at-uci-razed/ > > > > University officials contend that the Gehry building was not intended as > a > > long-term, permanent structure, and that it was falling apart and needed > > major, costly renovations. > > > > The building helped bring UCI to national prominence in architectural > > circles. > > > > Time magazine featured it prominently in a profile on Gehry, and called > it > > “improbably beautiful.” > > > > > > On 9/11/2017 7:02 PM, Ken Meltsner wrote: > >> > >> Are our tech giants getting a bad case of edifice complex? First > >> Apple with the "spaceship" HQ, and now Amazon putting out an RFP for > >> their second headquarters. > >> > >> Last week, sdw mentioned one of the most famous engineering "laws" > >> (Postel's). Well, way back at my first professional, permanent job > >> (GE R&D), Stephen Spacil, one of my colleagues, had come up with an > >> engineering "law" that ought to be better known: > >> > >> By the time you build a new facility for an opportunity, the > >> opportunity will have passed. > >> > >> There were many examples at GE in Niskayuna, like the coal > >> gasification building that wasn't completed until coal gasification > >> was shown to be a dead end both economically and technically, or the > >> lab space purpose-built for a division that was sold shortly before > >> the lab was completed. > >> > >> And the corollary is that junky buildings, like MIT's famous Building > >> 20 [1] (built as temporary lab space during WWII, but used for more > >> than 50 years) are often the most productive spaces for novel ideas > >> because no one cared what happened to it -- labs routinely drilled > >> holes in walls and floors to make space or connections for unwieldy > >> equipment, for example. > >> > >> Really makes me wonder about Apple's new headquarters which is > >> probably too beautiful to hack if a flexible space is needed, and now > >> Amazon's stated goal of adding a second headquarters. > >> > >> > >> Ken Meltsner > >> > >> [1] Brand, Stewart (1995). How buildings learn: what happens after > >> they're built. New York: Penguin Books. ISBN 978-0-14-013996-9., cited > >> at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building_20 > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > FoRK mailing list > > http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork > > > > -- > After 30+ years of email, I have used up my supply of clever .sig material. > > _______________________________________________ > FoRK mailing list > http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork > _______________________________________________ FoRK mailing list http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork