Jeffery Goines (12 Monkeys) and Tyler Durden (Fight Club) are the same person.
"Joseph S. Barrera III" <[email protected]>
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https://www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/12jczl/jeffery_goines_12_monkeys_and_tyler_durden_fight/ Watching 12 Monkeys, I began to see some eerie similarities between Brad Pitt’s performance in that and his performance in Fight Club. The closer I looked, I realized that they just might be the same person. Here is what I believe took place between when James Coles first encounters him in 1990 and when he caught up with him again in 1996. In 1990 Jeffery Goines is institutionalized in Baltimore where he meets James Cole and has the spark of inspiration that would eventually become the Army of the Twelve Monkeys. With his penchant for troublemaking and his involvement in Cole’s subsequent escape, Jeffery is severely punished. The punishment comes in the form of clinically administered electroshock therapy. The barrage of treatment ultimately induces a psychotic break and the splintering of his personalities, one being a more mild mannered and one more rebellious, I.E. “Jack” (or Joe from the novel) and “Tyler Durden”. As “Jack” he convinces the doctors that he’s now sane. Upon release (let’s say circa 1992) he moves away from Baltimore, presumably to the west coast, to start his life anew. He gets an office job, a condo, and tries to live what he presumes is a normal life. Away from the hospital, his “Tyler” alter becomes stronger. “Jack” begins having sleep problems and, upon his doctor’s recommendation, starts to attend support groups. The therapeutic setting affects “Jack” subconsciously, reminding him of the institution, and represses “Tyler’s” growing presence. When Marla starts to crash his groups, “Tyler” finds another agent of social sedition and again grows stronger. Not long after “Tyler” makes his presence known to “Jack” and starts to deconstruct his buttoned-down life. “Jacks” condo explodes, he moves in with “Tyler”, and Fight Club begins. Eventually Tyler begins Project Mayhem. The members of Project Mayhem, dubbed “Space Monkeys”, begin a series of terrorist style mischief making including seeding a BMW lot causing pigeons to shit on all over the lot, painting an enormous smiley face on the side of a building, and eventually abducting and threatening an elected official when the police threaten to shut down Fight Club. After “Tyler” enacts a plan to blowing up the headquarters of the major credit agencies, “Jack” decides to take matters into his own hands, and shoots himself in the face. This is one of the places where the book and the film diverge. In the book “Jack” (or presumably Jeffery, since the trauma of the shooting has mended his fragmented personalities) wakes up in the hospital where he encounters members of Project Mayhem. They get him transferred back to the Baltimore institution (most likely around 1994). Since the destruction of the credit buildings has sparked a federal investigation, lesser members of Project Mayhem take the fall clearing Jeffery of any suspicion. He is soon released back into his father’s care and quickly reconnects with his top “Space Monkeys” disciples from Project Mayhem and creates the Army of the Twelve Monkeys. They again start a mischievous war on the establishment, which ultimately culminates in the abduction of Jeffery’s father, prominent biologist Dr. Goines, and the releasing of all the animals in the Baltimore Zoo. Unfortunately, this would be their last big “prank” as all members of the Army of the Twelve Monkeys, as well as most of the human race, becomes mortally infected by a deadly super virus. TL:DR Between 1990 and 1996, Jeffery Goines’ personality splits into “Jack” and “Tyler Durden.” _______________________________________________ FoRK mailing list http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork