[CAnet - news] The Challenge of Smart Grids - a rallying cry to R&E networks and Internet community

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 [There has been a lot of news in the press recently about SMART electrical
grids. Cisco recently announced that Smart Grids will eclipse the size of
the Internet and Google announced its plans to launch Home Energy Management
software. Even some telephone companies are looking  to get into the
business of home energy management. Can you imagine the same companies that
brought you the two tiered Internet, are now going scaling up to bring you
the two tiered electrical grid.  Not only do they want to manage your
Internet application but they want apply the same mindset to managing your
appliances.  

 

The big challenge with today's Smart Grids strategy is that it is all based
on managing peak load and are designed around a "gosplan" utility megawatt
mindset architecture of huge centralized databases for the  acquisition,
management and control of consumers meters and appliances. (Another aspect
of Smart grids is for utilities to better manage their own infrastructure
which makes sense, but that is separate issue than managing consumer
devices) .The main beneficiary is not the consumer but the utility operator
in avoiding having to build new power plants for peak load. The
environmental benefits are minimal and the savings to the consumer are
marginal (around 10%) based on data from the Smart Grid trial at PNNL in
Washington State.  There are also huge challenges with respect to security
as outlined by Rahul Tongia at CMU in his e-mail on Dave Farber's IPer list.
Imagine if someone hacked such a network and were able to turn off and on
your appliances and electricity at will.

 

Innovation rarely comes from large monopolies like electrical utilities and
telcos.  But the Internet research and education community has a long of
history of innovation particularly in adopting principles of the Internet
in terms of intelligence at the edge and broadband network infrastructure as
exemplified in the excellent paper "Unleashing Waves of Innovation"
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/comments/488.pdf.  R&E networks
around the world have been instrumental in network innovation and working
with communities in broadband infrastructure such as initiatives led by
Educause, Internet 2, NLR, KAREN, i2Cat, etc. I  believe the same
organizations have the capability, infrastructure and knowledge to pioneer
new techniques for smart grids built around the principle of intelligence at
the edge and customer control.  Universities, schools and research
institutions in partnership with R&E networks are well suited to work with
communities on exploring new architectures and solution for Smart grids that
will have genuine benefits for the consumer (as opposed to the utility) as
well as the environment.

 

Germany happens to be a world leader in this area and has  many great
examples of new smart grid architectures where consumers can also supply
power to the grid.  The 5th estate video compares and contrasts the German
approach to what is largely happening in North America. In Germany consumers
can arrange for their own meter independent of the utility and subscribe to
different energy providers.  Thanks to John Spence and Frank Coluccio for
these pointers - BSA]

 

 

Great 5th estate  video on green in Germany versus Canada in Smart grids and
renewable energy
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2008-2009/the_gospel_of_green/video.html

 


Opportunity is promising, but utility cooperation will be the challenge 

By Sean Buckley | Telecommunications Magazine | March 31, 2009 

"As I head out to CTIA to help host our one-day Machine to Machine: Show me
the Money panel series, it's hard not to notice reports that Verizon is
considering the idea of adding energy management services as one of the
services it could offer over a home network connected to its FiOS FTTH
service. Other than saying they will offer videoconferencing, Verizon has
not formally confirmed a plan for an energy management service. I don't
think the idea of a telco like Verizon, or any service provider for that
matter, offering energy management is far-fetched. Service providers,
especially those like Verizon and their RBOC counterparts (AT&T and Qwest)
are looking to find new ways to differentiate themselves and avoid having
others leverage their connections into the home for applications they don't
control." 

[Indeed!]

Cont.: http://www.telecommagazine.com/newsglobe/article.asp?HH_ID=AR_5074

 

 

Rahul Tongia [email protected] from a posting on Dave Farber's IPer list

 

As a researcher in the "smart grid" space, I will mention several
facts/observations about smart grids:

 

1) People are throwing solutions out before figuring out what the problems
are.  Adding billions of $ to the mix (with strange rules to boot - e.g.,
sizes and $ limits per project) doesn't help. 2) The fundamental thing
utilities need to understand when designing systems is what their functional
goals are: audit (important in a place like India, with 10-20% theft),
monitoring, or control.  You need different  

designs.  These then lead you to the issue of communications design.   

It's NOT bandwidth that is the concern, but predictability and reliability.
Should the utility own it themselves, or rely on outsiders? I could user
outsiders with the former, but is it appropriate for things like control? I
don't think so (IMHO). 3) Some of the largest vendors of meters and
affiliated technology are behind the curve in technology.  Some of the best
firms in this space are relatively small.

4) Security cannot be an add-on.  Everyone pays lip service to security,
just like being "green." But have we developed the right, lightweight
solutions?

5) Open standards are going to be critical, else we will end up with $ $,
proprietary, and sometimes inferior solutions. 6) Getting communications
right in both directions is the key challenge.  We need to innovate more!
Both directions means from the user/meter to and from the utility.  Then,
from a user's central point (maybe meter, maybe inside), signaling to
appliances and devices.

One has to realize how little the costs could be for smart systems.   

Take a smart fridge. No, I don't want it to order milk when my an RFID chip
on the milk carton says expired.  I just want energy efficiency and load
control.  If a fridge knows when peak electricity is, then there is no
reason it should run the compressor, or five times worse, the defrost cycle,
during peak periods.  Extra cost at the fridge level for the intelligence
AND short-range communications? A few dollars (if built to standards in high
volume).  The issue is chicken- and-egg.  Who signals, where, and how is an
unanswered Q. The utility?  

Governement? A neutral grid operator? Consumer aggregators (energy service
providers)? Or the consumer himself/herself?

I think automated systems that don't rely on humans are going to work better
than people staring at a household display (thermostat/meter) to take
actions.  As a consumer, I should be in charge of that, unless  

I am willing to give the utility or a 3rd party such control.   

Certainly price signals are important.  Here Time of Use is not as good as
Real-time (near real time) since (1) ToU can become a self- negating
prophecy and (2) only the latter can deal with unforeseen events.

A relatively sophisticated (but low bandwidth) solution is important.   

We need bidirectional communications once we go beyond automated metering as
a goal.  For starters, you need that if you consider communications
security.  You need to have touchless upgrades and security enhancements - a
meter will last 15-20 years.  Can anyone  

swap out a network key with a one-way radio broadcast and verify it?   

Bidirectional is also important when we consider compliance (if not
"theft").  I'm not talking the India or Nigeria kind.  I remember a story
about direct load control in the Detroit area in the early 1920s or 30s.
The utility would pay people to let it control their water heaters or other
such load, using analog radio signals. People then figured out they could
get paid but yet have no discomfort if they just put aluminum foil over the
receiver!

 

The good news is the amount of load control we need to make a difference
isn't much.  Avoiding blackouts is cutting loads of maybe 5-10% or so.
Saving 5% of PEAK electricity is (rule of thumb) some 25% of generation
costs.

Rahul

 

> 

 

 

 

CISCO: SMART GRID WILL ECLIPSE SIZE OF INTERNET Cisco sees a $100 billion
market opportunity in the smart grid. The company make communications
equipment for the electricity grid -- everything from routers in grid
substations to home energy controllers. Cisco's move is a sign that the
creaky electricity distribution system is poised for a digital upgrade.
Other high-tech companies, including IBM, Intel, and several start-ups, are
ramping up smart-grid efforts to capitalize on expected investments from
utilities and federal governments. Cisco estimates that the communications
portion of that build-out is worth $20 billion a year over the next five
years. The idea of the "smart grid" is to modernize the electricity industry
by overlaying digital communications onto the grid. Smart meters in a
person's home, for example, can communicate energy usage to utilities in
near real time. That allows the utility to more efficiently manage the
electricity supply and potentially allow a consumer to take advantage of
cheaper rates.

 

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<p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;[There has been a lot of news in the press =
recently about
SMART electrical grids. Cisco recently announced that Smart Grids will =
eclipse
the size of the Internet and Google announced its plans to launch Home =
Energy
Management software. Even some telephone companies are looking &nbsp;to =
get
into the business of home energy management. Can you imagine the same =
companies
that brought you the two tiered Internet, are now going scaling up to =
bring you
the two tiered electrical grid.&nbsp; Not only do they want to manage =
your
Internet application but they want apply the same mindset to managing =
your
appliances. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>The big challenge with today&#8217;s Smart Grids =
strategy is
that it is all based on managing peak load and are designed around a =
&#8220;gosplan&#8221;
utility megawatt mindset architecture of huge centralized databases for =
the &nbsp;acquisition,
management and control of consumers meters and appliances. (Another =
aspect of
Smart grids is for utilities to better manage their own infrastructure =
which
makes sense, but that is separate issue than managing consumer devices) =
.The
main beneficiary is not the consumer but the utility operator in =
avoiding
having to build new power plants for peak load. The environmental =
benefits are
minimal and the savings to the consumer are marginal (around 10%) based =
on data
from the Smart Grid trial at PNNL in Washington State.&nbsp; There are =
also
huge challenges with respect to security as outlined by Rahul Tongia at =
CMU in
his e-mail on Dave Farber&#8217;s IPer list. Imagine if someone hacked =
such a
network and were able to turn off and on your appliances and electricity =
at
will.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Innovation rarely comes from large monopolies like
electrical utilities and telcos.&nbsp; But the Internet research and =
education
community has a long of history of innovation particularly in adopting
principles of the Internet &nbsp;in terms of intelligence at the edge =
and
broadband network infrastructure as exemplified in the excellent paper =
&#8220;Unleashing
Waves of Innovation&#8221; <a
href=3D"http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/comments/488.pdf">http://=
www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/comments/488.pdf</a>.&nbsp;
R&amp;E networks around the world have been instrumental in network =
innovation
and working with communities in broadband infrastructure such as =
initiatives
led by Educause, Internet 2, NLR, KAREN, i2Cat, etc. I&nbsp; believe the =
same
organizations have the capability, infrastructure and knowledge to =
pioneer new
techniques for smart grids built around the principle of intelligence at =
the
edge and customer control.&nbsp; Universities, schools and research
institutions in partnership with R&amp;E networks are well suited to =
work with
communities on exploring new architectures and solution for Smart grids =
that
will have genuine benefits for the consumer (as opposed to the utility) =
as well
as the environment.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Germany happens to be a world leader in this area =
and
has&nbsp; many great examples of new smart grid architectures where =
consumers
can also supply power to the grid.&nbsp; The 5<sup>th</sup> estate video
compares and contrasts the German approach to what is largely happening =
in
North America. In Germany consumers can arrange for their own meter =
independent
of the utility and subscribe to different energy providers.&nbsp; Thanks =
to
John Spence and Frank Coluccio for these pointers &#8211; =
BSA]<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>Great 5th estate&nbsp; video on green in Germany =
versus Canada
in Smart grids and renewable energy <a
href=3D"http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2008-2009/the_gospel_of_green/video.html"=
>http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2008-2009/the_gospel_of_green/video.html</a><o:p=
></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>
Opportunity is promising, <strong><i><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>but
utility cooperation will be the challenge </span></i></strong><br>
<br>
By Sean Buckley |<em><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>
Telecommunications Magazine</span></em> | March 31, 2009 <br>
<br>
&quot;As I head out to CTIA to help host our one-day Machine to Machine: =
Show
me the Money panel series, it&#8217;s hard not to notice reports that =
Verizon
is considering the idea of adding energy management services as one of =
the
services it could offer over a home network connected to its FiOS FTTH =
service.
Other than saying they will offer videoconferencing, Verizon has not =
formally
confirmed a plan for an energy management service. I don&#8217;t think =
the idea
of a telco like Verizon, or any service provider for that matter, =
offering
energy management is far-fetched. Service providers, especially those =
like
Verizon and their RBOC counterparts (AT&amp;T and Qwest) are looking to =
find
new ways to differentiate themselves and avoid having others leverage =
their
connections into the home for applications they don&#8217;t =
control.&quot; <br>
<br>
[Indeed!]<br>
<br>
Cont.: <a
href=3D"http://www.telecommagazine.com/newsglobe/article.asp?HH_ID=3DAR_5=
074">http://www.telecommagazine.com/newsglobe/article.asp?HH_ID=3DAR_5074=
</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>Rahul Tongia <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>
from a posting on Dave Farber&#8217;s IPer list<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>As a researcher in the &quot;smart grid&quot; =
space, I
will mention several facts/observations about smart =
grids:<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>1) People are throwing solutions out before =
figuring out
what the problems are.&nbsp; Adding billions of $ to the mix (with =
strange
rules to boot - e.g., sizes and $ limits per project) doesn't help. 2) =
The
fundamental thing utilities need to understand when designing systems is =
what
their functional goals are: audit (important in a place like India, with =
10-20%
theft), monitoring, or control.&nbsp; You need different&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>designs.&nbsp; These then lead you to the issue =
of
communications design.&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>It's NOT bandwidth that is the concern, but =
predictability
and reliability.&nbsp; Should the utility own it themselves, or rely on
outsiders? I could user outsiders with the former, but is it appropriate =
for
things like control? I don't think so (IMHO). 3) Some of the largest =
vendors of
meters and affiliated technology are behind the curve in =
technology.&nbsp; Some
of the best firms in this space are relatively small.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>4) Security cannot be an add-on.&nbsp; Everyone =
pays lip
service to security, just like being &quot;green.&quot; But have we =
developed
the right, lightweight solutions?<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>5) Open standards are going to be critical, else =
we will
end up with $ $, proprietary, and sometimes inferior solutions. 6) =
Getting
communications right in both directions is the key challenge.&nbsp; We =
need to
innovate more!&nbsp; Both directions means from the user/meter to and =
from the
utility.&nbsp; Then, from a user's central point (maybe meter, maybe =
inside),
signaling to appliances and devices.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>One has to realize how little the costs could be =
for
smart systems.&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>Take a smart fridge. No, I don't want it to =
order milk
when my an RFID chip on the milk carton says expired.&nbsp; I just want =
energy
efficiency and load control.&nbsp; If a fridge knows when peak =
electricity is,
then there is no reason it should run the compressor, or five times =
worse, the
defrost cycle, during peak periods.&nbsp; Extra cost at the fridge level =
for
the intelligence AND short-range communications? A few dollars (if built =
to
standards in high volume).&nbsp; The issue is chicken- and-egg.&nbsp; =
Who
signals, where, and how is an unanswered Q. The utility?&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>Governement? A neutral grid operator? Consumer
aggregators (energy service providers)? Or the consumer =
himself/herself?<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>I think automated systems that don't rely on =
humans are
going to work better than people staring at a household display
(thermostat/meter) to take actions.&nbsp; As a consumer, I should be in =
charge
of that, unless&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>I am willing to give the utility or a 3rd party =
such
control.&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>Certainly price signals are important.&nbsp; =
Here Time of
Use is not as good as Real-time (near real time) since (1) ToU can =
become a
self- negating prophecy and (2) only the latter can deal with unforeseen
events.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>A relatively sophisticated (but low bandwidth) =
solution
is important.&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>We need bidirectional communications once we go =
beyond
automated metering as a goal.&nbsp; For starters, you need that if you =
consider
communications security.&nbsp; You need to have touchless upgrades and =
security
enhancements - a meter will last 15-20 years.&nbsp; Can anyone&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>swap out a network key with a one-way radio =
broadcast and
verify it?&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>Bidirectional is also important when we consider
compliance (if not &quot;theft&quot;).&nbsp; I'm not talking the India =
or
Nigeria kind.&nbsp; I remember a story about direct load control in the =
Detroit
area in the early 1920s or 30s.&nbsp; The utility would pay people to =
let it control
their water heaters or other such load, using analog radio signals. =
People then
figured out they could get paid but yet have no discomfort if they just =
put
aluminum foil over the receiver!<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>The good news is the amount of load control we =
need to
make a difference isn't much.&nbsp; Avoiding blackouts is cutting loads =
of
maybe 5-10% or so.&nbsp; Saving 5% of PEAK electricity is (rule of =
thumb) some
25% of generation costs.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>Rahul<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText>CISCO: SMART GRID WILL ECLIPSE SIZE OF INTERNET =
Cisco
sees a $100 billion market opportunity in the smart grid. The company =
make communications
equipment for the electricity grid -- everything from routers in grid
substations to home energy controllers. Cisco's move is a sign that the =
creaky
electricity distribution system is poised for a digital upgrade. Other
high-tech companies, including IBM, Intel, and several start-ups, are =
ramping
up smart-grid efforts to capitalize on expected investments from =
utilities and
federal governments. Cisco estimates that the communications portion of =
that
build-out is worth $20 billion a year over the next five years. The idea =
of the
&quot;smart grid&quot; is to modernize the electricity industry by =
overlaying
digital communications onto the grid. Smart meters in a person's home, =
for
example, can communicate energy usage to utilities in near real time. =
That allows
the utility to more efficiently manage the electricity supply and =
potentially
allow a consumer to take advantage of cheaper rates.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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