Re: Re: random thoughts

Let me start by saying i said "OH PLEASE" because i don't have time to listen to ignorance. Maybe you have time to go around disturbing people who don't wish to hear a thing you have to say. That is certainly your right. As it is mine to think you are a idiot. It is not only catholics who go around molesting kids. I have seen them even in methodist, pentecostal, baptist and every other religion. Case in point, i was raped at the age of 14 by my godfather. I went to my church seeking help and reassurance that i had done nothing wrong. I was called a whore to my face and also was told i must have done something for him to rape me. By my own church now mind you. And the guy who raped me was allowed to become a member of that congregation. So don't bother saying it is only the catholic churches because i know better. The only thing i can agree with you on at this point is that these people are acting inappropriately. Even you are acting inappropriate. You come into a room where y
 ou are not welcome and try to push your christianity on those who don't gave a rat's ass. Is caesar my king?? Hmm no but he certainly is considered a friend. Do i agree with everything he says?? Again, no, but i am an individual who has a mind of my own. And i know how to use it. Do i believe in god?? that depends on which god you mean. I am a witch so therefore i follow a god/goddess. But i also believe there is going to be a great war. Do i believe in the antichrist? As a matter of fact i do. Yes it was the civil authorities who burned the witches. But they also was acting upon the orders of the church. And also proclaimed themselves to be acting on the word of god. My ancestors were burned at the stake not only because they were women. But because the christian church felt they were being competed against. They had nothing to offer these people. As a matter of fact they took anything that was fun and called it "of the devil". Forgetting that they took pagan holidays and 
 used them for their purposes. Christmas was used to be the date of jesus birth. But no one actually knows what day jesus was born. It was a pagan holiday known as yule. Easter was another one. It is known as spring equinox to the pagans. In the bible one of jesus friends built pagan temples. Jesus has also been quoted as saying about a pagan that "rarely has he seen such faith in a man". Statues that has been used to be the image of mary is actually statues of the goddess isis suckling her son horus. I don't base every last christian on what other's have done. I have friends that proclaim to be christian but they also keep an open mind and willing to hear my beliefs. It is the people who are so radical that they have their head so far up their ass that i have a problem with. Next??
 gretchen121781 <[email protected]> wrote:Point 1 - The Roman Catholic church is not Christian.  They might say 
they are Christian, but they are not by Biblical standards.  In fact, 
some would say that the Roman Pontiff (the Pope) is the Antichrist.  
He is certainly A antichrist.  And where does the term "antichrist 
come from"?  The Bible.  So, by stating you are the church of the 
antichrist, you are stating that you believe the Bible.
Point 2 - Those who burned "witches" at the stake were not acting 
appropriately.  And, you also must remember, it was the civil 
authorities, and not the church, who did the burning.  Since in the 
New Dispensation we do not live in a theonomic society, we do not use 
the civil authorities to punish those sinners.  
Point 3 - Those who publicly hate gays, bisexuals, and lesbians are 
also acting unscripturally.  Homosexuals (that term includes all of 
the above) are living in horrible sin, but there are homosexuals who 
will be saved.  Of course, when they are saved, their horrible sin 
will cease.  Those who state otherwise, that homosexuals are 
definitely doomed to hell have not read the Bible.  However, if the 
sinner remains in sin, they will not be saved.

So, what you have done is this - you have taken stereotypes of quasi-
Christian groups and labelled the entire Christian faith as such.  
Induction is not logical, my friend.  Read the Bible.  See what it 
says.  Read my other posts, before Caesar (is he YOUR king?) deletes 
them and me.  

I notice you addressed none of my points, especially the one that if 
there is no God, there is no antichrist.   Your answer was simply "OH 
PLEASE", an attempt to not reply or respond to my contentions, but 
merely to dismiss them out of hand.  Such a reductio ad absurdum will 
not work, I'm afraid.

Gretchen [email protected]

--- In ChurchOfTheAntichrist@y..., cattarina knight 
<ladycattarina65@y...> wrote:
> 
> Please don't tell me we have a fundamentalist christian in here. In 
case you haven't noticed the christian room is two doors down and to 
the right. Those are the people that should be preached to. The same 
people who claim to love the sinner and hate the sin. But throw rocks 
at witches because as the good <smirks> book says "thy shalt not 
suffer a witch to live". And these are also the same people who are 
molesting little kids by pretending to be a messenger of god. They 
also tell everyone to tithe and give 10 percent of their income to 
make their preachers richer while their congregation is starving. Who 
publicly hate gays, lesbians, and bisexuals such as myself. Then they 
have the nerve to come to our room and tell the leader what he is 
doing wrong. Two words "OH PLEASE"!!!!
>  gretchen121781 <gretchen121781@y...> wrote:Actually, JUST to clear 
up a few misconceptions.
> 1) If there is no God, then there is no Satan, right?  Then there 
is 
> no Christ, and no antichrist.  So, your group name is incorrect.  
It 
> should be "The group of bitter atheists" (you can work on a better 
> title).
> 2) God does not love everybody.  God only loves His elect.  The 
rest 
> He has not elected to eternal life.  People who say, "God loves you 
> and has a very special plan for you" are lying.  God only loves 
those 
> whom He has eternally chosen to save.  The rest He has eternally 
> reprobated.  And, lest you think that that makes you reprobate, I 
too 
> was like you.  The elect are not chosen for anything in themselves, 
> but only by God's good will.
> 3) God is eternally good, He is the fountain of all goodness.  
> 
> 4) Yes, the Christian God is the one true God.  By definition God 
is 
> one.  If there were multiple gods then they would not be God.
> 5) What you are doing here is nothing new.  You all know that there 
> is a God.  But you hate Him.  So, you repress the truth in 
> unrighteousness.  Read Romans Chapter 1.  I too repressed God in 
the 
> same manner as you are doing.
> 
> Gretchen A
> 
> 
> --- In ChurchOfTheAntichrist@y..., MeLLiSSa <Byrd_mad_girl@y...> 
> wrote:
> > I completely agree sarah 
> > Mellissa
> >  Sarah <psycho_saz_2004@y...> wrote:[Note From Caesar: We must 
> condemn our enemies and hate them with a whole heart! The christian 
> enemy will always judge you, because it is their authoritarian 
nature 
> and belief, based upon their so-called one god, and claim to have 
the 
> only true moral-value system. We can never live in harmony with 
these 
> scum who oppress us, by stealing our rights through specific civil 
> laws.] 
> > My best friend is super religious. Me and her are at Odds, 
because 
> she's trying to show me "the goodness of God". Wasted effort if u 
ask 
> me. I see no goodness there, I don't judge her for her beliefs, why 
> must she condemn me for mine.
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