Re: Chinese Breeding Like Rabbits
"Caesar The Terror" <[email protected]> Sun, 17 Aug 2003 03:58:34 -0000
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We should give the Chinese a great hand of applause for helping=20 advance embryonic stem cell technologies, etc. The smartest people in=20 the world, will become the leaders in scientific advancement! It is=20 our Church Goal to secure our rights to develop and use all=20 technologies that will advance human life spans and benefit all of=20 humankind, despite what dogmatic moral/ethical, or sentimental=20 nonsense the religious right wing dares to bring up. They absolutely=20 have no right whatsoever to interfere in the advancement of science=20 and impose limitations and bans on our rights to develop and use=20 these technologies. It is our Church Goal to make sure they never=20 have the power to enforce such bans, and to overthrow any bans they=20 have been able to enforce through civil laws, etc. We will make it=20 impossible for them to ever have the political, economic, or military=20 power to ever impose such dogma upon us, which is oppressing us and=20 disrespecting us, through their civil laws. These religious leaders=20 and individuals should be shot, just for trying to interfere with the=20 advancement of science. They have kept the world in the dark ages for=20 far too long, and we will not be flung back into them, because they=20 have once again interfered with government and the advancement=20 technology. Religious and Political Intervention by the Religious=20 Right must be completely smashed into oblivion. They must never be=20 allowed to influence governmental affairs, be voted for, or=20 economically supported in any way, including from the government=20 itself. Some traditions must die, in order for us to truly advance!=20 Caesar 999=20=20 --- In [email protected], "Ozzy bin Oswald"=20 <hisholiness@r...> wrote: > Cloning Yields Human-Rabbit Hybrid Embryo=20 >=20 > By Rick Weiss > Washington Post Staff Writer > Thursday, August 14, 2003; Page A04=20 >=20 >=20 > Scientists in China have, for the first time, used cloning=20 techniques=20 > to create hybrid embryos that contain a mix of DNA from both humans=20 > and rabbits, according to a report in a scientific journal that has=20 > reignited the smoldering ethics debate over cloning research.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > More than 100 of the hybrids, made by fusing human skin cells with=20 > rabbit eggs, were allowed to develop in laboratory dishes for=20 several=20 > days before the scientists destroyed them to retrieve so-called=20 > embryonic stem cells from their interiors. Although scientists in=20 > Massachusetts had previously mixed human cells and cow eggs in a=20 > similar attempt to make hybrid embryos as a source of stem cells,=20 > those experiments were not successful.=20 >=20 > Researchers said yesterday they were hopeful that the rabbit work=20 > would lead to a new and plentiful source of embryonic stem cells=20 for=20 > research and, eventually, for medical use. But theologians and=20 others=20 > decried the work as unethical.=20 >=20 > Some wondered aloud what, exactly, such a creature would be if it=20 > were transferred to a womb to develop to term.=20 >=20 > The vast majority of the DNA in the embryos is human, with a small=20 > percentage of genetic material -- called mitochondrial DNA --=20 > contributed by the rabbit egg. No one knows if such an embryo could=20 > develop into a viable fetus, though some experiments with other=20 > species suggest it would not.=20 >=20 > Congress has been mulling legislation for years that would outlaw=20 > certain human cloning experiments, with some opposed to any=20 creation=20 > of cloned embryos for research and others sympathetic to research=20 > uses as long as the embryos are not allowed to grow into cloned=20 > babies. No law has been passed, however, in part because of=20 > researchers' warnings that the proposed restrictions are so far- > reaching that they would hobble development of new medical=20 > treatments.=20 >=20 > The new work, led by Hui Zhen Sheng of Shanghai Second Medical=20 > University, appears in the latest issue of Cell Research and was=20 > highlighted in a news report in the journal Nature. Cell Research=20 is=20 > a peer-reviewed -- if little-known in the United States --=20 bimonthly=20 > scientific journal affiliated with the Shanghai Institute of Cell=20 > Biology and the Chinese Academy of Sciences. Some researchers=20 > yesterday said they were frustrated by the lack of details in the=20 > paper.=20 >=20 > The team said it retrieved foreskin tissue from two 5-year-old boys=20 > and two men, and facial tissue from a 60-year-old woman, as a=20 source=20 > of skin cells. They fused those cells with New Zealand rabbit eggs=20 > from which the vast majority of rabbit DNA had been removed. More=20 > than 400 of those new, fused entities grew into early embryos, and=20 > more than 100 survived to the blastocyst stage -- the point at=20 which=20 > coveted stem cells begin to form.=20 >=20 > The approach could help scientists wishing to mass-produce human=20 > embryos as sources of human embryonic stem cells. Stem cells can=20 > morph into all kinds of tissues and may be able to reverse the=20 > effects of various degenerative diseases. But to make cloned=20 embryos,=20 > scientists need both normal body cells -- such as skin cells -- and=20 > egg cells, which have the unique capacity to "reprogram" the genes=20 in=20 > body cells and make them behave as though they were embryo cells.=20 >=20 > Because human egg cells are difficult and costly to retrieve from=20 > women's ovaries -- and because human egg retrieval poses risks to=20 the=20 > donors -- scientists have been wanting to know whether animal eggs=20 > may serve as well. A major question has been whether the remnants=20 of=20 > mitochondrial DNA that typically remain in an animal egg would be=20 > compatible with the nuclear DNA contributed by the human cell.=20 >=20 > The new work suggests that the answer to that question is yes,=20 > scientists said -- though with a number of caveats. Most important,=20 > researchers said, the paper stops short of proving beyond a doubt=20 > that the stem cells retrieved from the hybrid embryos are truly=20 > capable of growing for long periods of time in lab dishes, and that=20 > they can turn into every known kind of cell.=20 >=20 > Even so, said Douglas Melton, a Harvard University cell biologist=20 and=20 > cloning expert, the work is a big advance because it offers a new=20 > system for exploring the mechanisms by which egg cells get adult=20 > cells to act in embryonic ways. That could provide deep insights=20 into=20 > human development, wound healing and tissue regeneration.=20 >=20 > He noted that although this is the first creation of a=20 > human "chimeric" embryo -- a reference to the fabulous chimera of=20 > Greek mythology, which had a lion's head, a goat's body and a=20 > serpent's tail -- it is not the first time scientists have blended=20 > human cells into lab animals. Some mice, for example, have been=20 > endowed with human brain cells or portions of the human immune=20 system=20 > for research.=20 >=20 > The Chinese work, Melton said, is "extremely interesting, and I=20 hope=20 > they pursue it."=20 >=20 > R. Alta Charo, an associate dean of law and professor of bioethics=20 at=20 > the University of Wisconsin at Madison, noted that the work passed=20 > muster with Chinese ethics authorities, who had demanded, among=20 other=20 > things, that the embryos not be allowed to grow more than 14 days.=20 >=20 > "Short of putting one of these embryos into a woman's body for=20 > development to term, I don't think this work harms anyone alive,"=20 > Charo said.=20 >=20 > She said the experiments should force opponents of cloning research=20 > to identify more clearly than they have until now exactly where=20 they=20 > would draw the line against human embryo cloning -- in effect: How=20 > human does an embryo have to be to have the moral standing these=20 > advocates confer on embryos?=20 >=20 > Richard Doerflinger, of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops,=20 said=20 > he felt certain that the human-rabbit embryos were human enough to=20 > deserve protections.=20 >=20 > "I think because all the nuclear DNA is human," Doerflinger=20 > said, "we'd consider this an organism of the human species."=20 >=20 > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A55911-2003Aug13.html >=20=20 >=20 >=20 > "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the=20 > laws."=20 > Meyer Amschel Rothschild, first patriarch of the > Rothschild dynasty=20 >=20 > "In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a=20 > deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve=20 > overpopulation." > Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh as reported by Deutsche Press=20 > Agentur (DPA), Aug. 1988 >=20 > "The American People don't read." > Allen Dulles,when confronted with the fact that the Warren=20 Commission=20 > Report was not credible to anyone who read it.=20 >=20 > "There is a continuum between those who would express dissent and=20 > those who would do a terrorist act..."=20 > FBI Director Robert S. Mueller=20 >=20 > "As Osama is to the creation of an American police-state under=20 > George, so George is the catalyst seemingly necessitating Global=20 > Government." > Ozzy bin Oswald >=20 > "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a=20 > human face - forever." > George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty Four >=20 > "Mit der Dummheit k=E4mpfen G=F6tter selbst vergebens": "With stupidity=20 > even the gods struggle in vain." > Friedrich von Schiller (1759-1805) >=20 > "We gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he [Saddam=20 > Hussein] wouldn't let them in." > George W. 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