Re: Chinese Breeding Like Rabbits

"Caesar The Terror" <[email protected]> Sun, 17 Aug 2003 03:58:34 -0000
Newsgroups gmane.culture.religion.church-of-the-anti-christ
Message-ID <[email protected]>
We should give the Chinese a great hand of applause for helping=20
advance embryonic stem cell technologies, etc. The smartest people in=20
the world, will become the leaders in scientific advancement! It is=20
our Church Goal to secure our rights to develop and use all=20
technologies that will advance human life spans and benefit all of=20
humankind, despite what dogmatic moral/ethical, or sentimental=20
nonsense the religious right wing dares to bring up. They absolutely=20
have no right whatsoever to interfere in the advancement of science=20
and impose limitations and bans on our rights to develop and use=20
these technologies. It is our Church Goal to make sure they never=20
have the power to enforce such bans, and to overthrow any bans they=20
have been able to enforce through civil laws, etc. We will make it=20
impossible for them to ever have the political, economic, or military=20
power to ever impose such dogma upon us, which is oppressing us and=20
disrespecting us, through their civil laws. These religious leaders=20
and individuals should be shot, just for trying to interfere with the=20
advancement of science. They have kept the world in the dark ages for=20
far too long, and we will not be flung back into them, because they=20
have once again interfered with government and the advancement=20
technology. Religious and Political Intervention by the Religious=20
Right must be completely smashed into oblivion. They must never be=20
allowed to influence governmental affairs, be voted for, or=20
economically supported in any way, including from the government=20
itself. Some traditions must die, in order for us to truly advance!=20

Caesar 999=20=20



--- In [email protected], "Ozzy bin Oswald"=20
<hisholiness@r...> wrote:
> Cloning Yields Human-Rabbit Hybrid Embryo=20
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> By Rick Weiss
> Washington Post Staff Writer
> Thursday, August 14, 2003; Page A04=20
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> Scientists in China have, for the first time, used cloning=20
techniques=20
> to create hybrid embryos that contain a mix of DNA from both humans=20
> and rabbits, according to a report in a scientific journal that has=20
> reignited the smoldering ethics debate over cloning research.=20
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> More than 100 of the hybrids, made by fusing human skin cells with=20
> rabbit eggs, were allowed to develop in laboratory dishes for=20
several=20
> days before the scientists destroyed them to retrieve so-called=20
> embryonic stem cells from their interiors. Although scientists in=20
> Massachusetts had previously mixed human cells and cow eggs in a=20
> similar attempt to make hybrid embryos as a source of stem cells,=20
> those experiments were not successful.=20
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> Researchers said yesterday they were hopeful that the rabbit work=20
> would lead to a new and plentiful source of embryonic stem cells=20
for=20
> research and, eventually, for medical use. But theologians and=20
others=20
> decried the work as unethical.=20
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> Some wondered aloud what, exactly, such a creature would be if it=20
> were transferred to a womb to develop to term.=20
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> The vast majority of the DNA in the embryos is human, with a small=20
> percentage of genetic material -- called mitochondrial DNA --=20
> contributed by the rabbit egg. No one knows if such an embryo could=20
> develop into a viable fetus, though some experiments with other=20
> species suggest it would not.=20
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> Congress has been mulling legislation for years that would outlaw=20
> certain human cloning experiments, with some opposed to any=20
creation=20
> of cloned embryos for research and others sympathetic to research=20
> uses as long as the embryos are not allowed to grow into cloned=20
> babies. No law has been passed, however, in part because of=20
> researchers' warnings that the proposed restrictions are so far-
> reaching that they would hobble development of new medical=20
> treatments.=20
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> The new work, led by Hui Zhen Sheng of Shanghai Second Medical=20
> University, appears in the latest issue of Cell Research and was=20
> highlighted in a news report in the journal Nature. Cell Research=20
is=20
> a peer-reviewed -- if little-known in the United States --=20
bimonthly=20
> scientific journal affiliated with the Shanghai Institute of Cell=20
> Biology and the Chinese Academy of Sciences. Some researchers=20
> yesterday said they were frustrated by the lack of details in the=20
> paper.=20
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> The team said it retrieved foreskin tissue from two 5-year-old boys=20
> and two men, and facial tissue from a 60-year-old woman, as a=20
source=20
> of skin cells. They fused those cells with New Zealand rabbit eggs=20
> from which the vast majority of rabbit DNA had been removed. More=20
> than 400 of those new, fused entities grew into early embryos, and=20
> more than 100 survived to the blastocyst stage -- the point at=20
which=20
> coveted stem cells begin to form.=20
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> The approach could help scientists wishing to mass-produce human=20
> embryos as sources of human embryonic stem cells. Stem cells can=20
> morph into all kinds of tissues and may be able to reverse the=20
> effects of various degenerative diseases. But to make cloned=20
embryos,=20
> scientists need both normal body cells -- such as skin cells -- and=20
> egg cells, which have the unique capacity to "reprogram" the genes=20
in=20
> body cells and make them behave as though they were embryo cells.=20
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> Because human egg cells are difficult and costly to retrieve from=20
> women's ovaries -- and because human egg retrieval poses risks to=20
the=20
> donors -- scientists have been wanting to know whether animal eggs=20
> may serve as well. A major question has been whether the remnants=20
of=20
> mitochondrial DNA that typically remain in an animal egg would be=20
> compatible with the nuclear DNA contributed by the human cell.=20
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> The new work suggests that the answer to that question is yes,=20
> scientists said -- though with a number of caveats. Most important,=20
> researchers said, the paper stops short of proving beyond a doubt=20
> that the stem cells retrieved from the hybrid embryos are truly=20
> capable of growing for long periods of time in lab dishes, and that=20
> they can turn into every known kind of cell.=20
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> Even so, said Douglas Melton, a Harvard University cell biologist=20
and=20
> cloning expert, the work is a big advance because it offers a new=20
> system for exploring the mechanisms by which egg cells get adult=20
> cells to act in embryonic ways. That could provide deep insights=20
into=20
> human development, wound healing and tissue regeneration.=20
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> He noted that although this is the first creation of a=20
> human "chimeric" embryo -- a reference to the fabulous chimera of=20
> Greek mythology, which had a lion's head, a goat's body and a=20
> serpent's tail -- it is not the first time scientists have blended=20
> human cells into lab animals. Some mice, for example, have been=20
> endowed with human brain cells or portions of the human immune=20
system=20
> for research.=20
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> The Chinese work, Melton said, is "extremely interesting, and I=20
hope=20
> they pursue it."=20
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> R. Alta Charo, an associate dean of law and professor of bioethics=20
at=20
> the University of Wisconsin at Madison, noted that the work passed=20
> muster with Chinese ethics authorities, who had demanded, among=20
other=20
> things, that the embryos not be allowed to grow more than 14 days.=20
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> "Short of putting one of these embryos into a woman's body for=20
> development to term, I don't think this work harms anyone alive,"=20
> Charo said.=20
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> She said the experiments should force opponents of cloning research=20
> to identify more clearly than they have until now exactly where=20
they=20
> would draw the line against human embryo cloning -- in effect: How=20
> human does an embryo have to be to have the moral standing these=20
> advocates confer on embryos?=20
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> Richard Doerflinger, of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops,=20
said=20
> he felt certain that the human-rabbit embryos were human enough to=20
> deserve protections.=20
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> "I think because all the nuclear DNA is human," Doerflinger=20
> said, "we'd consider this an organism of the human species."=20
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> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A55911-2003Aug13.html
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