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Salâm

Afdhere, below are the references for two articles by Brian Klug which you could read and reflect upon.  As Itrath has said, there are 'another zillion articles about the current "politics of anti-semitism"' available.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/comment/0,10551,1098625,00.html
No, anti-Zionism is not anti-semitism 

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040202&s=klug 
The Myth of the New Anti-Semitism 
[A review of four books:
(1) Never Again? The Threat of the New Anti-Semitism
by Abraham Foxman
(2) The Case for Israel
by Alan Dershowitz
(3) The New Anti-Semitism: The Current Crisis and What We Must Do About It
by Phyllis Chesler
(4) A New Antisemitism? Debating Judeophobia in 21st Century Britain
by Paul Iganski and Barry Kosmin, eds.]

As David Olesker observed in an article (posted by Itrath a while back):
"Never confuse a dialogue situation with an advocacy situation," he said. "Advocacy is about winning." One could, not inaccurately in context, gloss Olesker's last sentence with the words, "even at the expense of sincere dialogue and the quest for truth".  Many of the current advocates of anti-Zionism = anti-Semitism have adopted this cynical strategy. (http://www.jewishbulletin.ca/archives/June03/archives03Jun13-01.html)

AbdulAleem


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: itrath 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 8:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] Requesting support for acommunity-wide open le



  salaam,

  check out answer.org for responses to lerner.  we have had this debate ad
  nauseum.  i could post another zillion articles about the current "politics
  of anti-semitism".  and about the impacts of israeli occupation of palestine
  on the entire region.  we've done this all before.  and i'm bored.

  i was asking about specifics of movement policies.  if you look at the
  principles of the international anti-war organizations and many local orgs
  as well, the links made are way beyond just palestine.

  masalaama,

  itrath


  on 1/24/04 10:24 AM, Afdhere Jama at [email protected] wrote:

  > 
  > salam, 
  > 
  > itrath you want specifics? read michael lerner's "socialism of fools:
  > anti-semitism on the left", though this book is somewhat old (1992), and a lot
  > more anti-semitism have taken place since, it is a good source.
  > 
  > have you read the tikkun article (link) i posted? i will re-post it in this
  > e-mail, and also:
  > 
  > anti-semitism among progressives, liberals and anti-war movement -
  > http://www.opednews.com/kall%20antisemitism_among_progressives.htm
  > 
  > jews and anti-war movement (which talks about anti-semitism in the movement) -
  > http://www.shalomctr.org/index.cfm/action/read/section/War%20Jews/article/arti
  > cle393.html 
  > 
  > authoritorianism and anti-semitism in the anti-war movement -
  > http://www.tikkun.org/magazine/index.cfm/action/tikkun/issue/tik0305/article/0
  > 30512a.html 
  > 
  > the jews who are feeling anti-semitism in the anti-war movement are not a
  > bunch of hardcore zionists who want the palestinians to perish, often it is
  > anti-israel jews... which really highlights the real anti-semitism.
  > 
  > and, yes, there are tiny organizations that do talk about global issue
  > equally, etc, and almost all organization do claim to cater to that but in
  > reality... out in the street in protest, most often than not... it is only
  > israel which shows up... usually next to america (as if the two are to be
  > compared-- since israel only oppresses one community, while america literally
  > supports the oppression of many, many communities around the world.)
  > 
  > as a muslim who does not come from palestine, it strikes me as two things; a)
  > they think palestinians are better than all others oppressed, b) it is
  > anti-semitism. i don't think they prefer palestinians over kurds. so what is
  > left? :) 
  > 
  > 
  > afdhere
  > 
  > 
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