Re: arabs raising money for bush

salaam,

I don't think the African-American community is lead
by its elite class, in the same way most immigrant
groups are.  We are simply not as intradependent on
one other for our survival in the same way most
immigrant groups are at this point in our history. 
While African-Americans are socially conservative,
their has always been a history of "tolerance" (not
full equality) for the "other" among us.  We have
always been a minority - we have no real homeland
other than here.  The black church has always been
filled with gays and lesbians who were visible in some
form or another.  Single parent homes have always
existed in the African-American community (due to
circumstance) and the community, as well as the Black
Church embraced those families.  Secondly,
assimilation has never been a real option or goal for
Blacks.  Even African-American muslims will never be
persuaded to support Bush or neo-cons no matter how
much they may agree in their opposition to gay
marriage and abortion.  Welfare and Jobs don't explain
it because most blacks who vote don't benefit from
welfare, and  right now all Americans want to know
where the jobs are.  

Salaam
   


--- Afdhere Jama <[email protected]> wrote:

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salam,

i think it has to do with experience. even though
african-american community is 'led' by the "elite" as
the muslims, i think the first has more experience
with the u.s. politics. and unlike the muslims who
still have an "immigrant" mindset, the
african-americans are more prone to domestic issues
such as welfare and jobs.

afdhere



Afdhere Jama 
Editorial Director 
HURIYAH Publications 
S A N F R A N C I S C O 
[email protected]
http://www.huriyahmag.com
 
>From: frawthydog >Reply-To:
[email protected] >To:
[email protected] >Subject:
Re: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] arabs raising money
for bush >Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:55:49 -0800 (PST)
> >Salaam, > >while it is true that muslims in general
ARE social conservatives...the process by which
working class muslims end up voting idealogically
(abortion, gay marriages, things they are largely
unaffected by) and not practically (economics,
welfare, etc etc) is VERY MUCH controlled by
'community and masjid leaders' which is a direct
representation of the class dynamics both on a
commuity and on a national level.... > >the african
american muslim community while still being just as
much against abortion and gay marriages largely votes
democratic... > >ma'salaam, >fahd > >Afdhere Jama
wrote: > >wasalam, > >it should also be mentioned that
the majority of muslims in the u.s. - like everywhere
else - are 'public' conservatives. mark my words, when
*gay marriage* becomes an issue of presidential
debate, [muslim] folks will be voting for bush... >
>afdhere > > > > > >---------------------------------
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