Re: go girl
"Afdhere Jama" <[email protected]> Thu, 04 Mar 2004 18:28:04 -0800
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salam, sister aisha and everyone, aisha, my point is that just because the brothers come with pre-conceived ideas they shouldn't be rejected. i think arab men -- like all men -- yes, i know folks would disagree -- are just not sure how to deal with women. there are all these crazy societal stuff out there ... and they are trying them on for size at different levels, etc. and, yes, men are less perceptive than women. women have 'sixth' sense :) but still. i know some american women will be "turned off" by arab men's masculinity, or so what they think is masculine. but under that surface there is a gentle man. aisha, there are millions of (western) women out there who would be surprised about your experience. and that was exactly what i was saying to sister joyce: you know when you know :) but usually, the negative "know" is a result to something besides the point. positive 'know' is cool, negative 'know'-- reconsider! :) afdhere Afdhere Jama Editorial Director HURIYAH Publications S A N F R A N C I S C O [email protected] http://www.huriyahmag.com >From: "Kate Ahmad" >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] go girl >Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 09:47:54 +1100 > >Salaam, >I dont get your point here Afdhere.. >Obviously Joyce felt no connection with these men - and someone who >talks only of his own opinions for hours, is not going to be an >attractive marriage partner. >Why so keen for Joyce to reconsider? >There are plenty of other muslim men out there, probably many more >who are suited to Joyce. >I say you did the right thing Joyce. And dont worry about deciding >too quickly because when its the right person you will *know*. And >time will then cease to matter. >My husband and I were engaged after about 1 month, and married after >5 - and w e are blissfully happy 4 years on alhamdulillah. But I >knew with him immediately... > >Wa'salaam >aisha > > >>From: "Afdhere Jama" >>Reply-To: [email protected] >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] go girl >>Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 07:35:32 -0800 >> >><< message3.txt >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get Extra Storage in 10MB, 25MB, 50MB and 100MB options now! Go to >http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-au&page=hotmail/es2 ---------- One-click access to Hotmail from any Web page download MSN Toolbar now! salam, joyce and inas, may i say that not all arab men are like that :) and many guys -- arabs included -- deal with women in what they think women want. unfortunately, since feminism "came" out, it has been potrayed (by women, no less) that women do not want the 'sensitive' man. yeah, yeah, i know... some of you will say otherwise... as for lecturing, why not lecture back. if you let a man know that you are not the 'passive' type, then he will back out. but if you keep listening for hours end, then he will think you are the woman that has been potrayed over and over and over again. in the arab world, i know this is hard to believe, women are not passive. when it comes to the private life of the couple, the woman rules. in public, women act passive because the culture allows men to be falsely dominant. it took me a long time to realize that that it is the reverse here (west) for most non-arab women. so bear with the brothers :) also, if you gave up on the brothers on couple interractions, what makes you think that you would be better than -- say -- those who expect you to agree to marriage far too soon for your liking? or is it better to let go earlier than to accept earlier, assuming folks "think" they know what is on each account? it is not that i have a problem with you letting go the brothers, if that is truly what you feel is best in your heart. but i wouldn't have a problem with any couple who proposed on the first date, either, if that is what they feel is best. i'm just saying reconsider :) afdhere Afdhere Jama Editorial Director HURIYAH Publications S A N F R A N C I S C O [email protected] http://www.huriyahmag.com >From: "inas younis" >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] go girl >Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 08:27:46 -0600 > ---------- Fast. Reliable. Get MSN 9 Dial-up - 3 months for the price of 1! (Limited-time Offer)