Re: slavery, polygamy

"Afdhere Jama" <[email protected]> Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:03:09 -0800
Newsgroups gmane.culture.religion.muslim.progressive
Message-ID <[email protected]>
salam, na'eem,

abu hanifa is a very good example. no one in the arab world but small minority follow his madhab. on top of that, the majority of the muslims (non-arabs) follow the other madhabs brought by arabs. in fact, the majority of muslims follow the shafi'i -- which is brought by the qureishi imam. shafi'i's system of laws, for example, are used by all muslims... since all schools use it. it's quite interesting when you look into all these things.

yes, definitely there were a lot more scholars who were non-arab. that is not the argument at all. that is a reality in both number and interest. but the basic fact is that arab thought amongst muslims travels way faster than the other way around. and this is the natural process, perhaps, since arabs brought islam in the first place.

the discussion began with arab culture being mish-mashed with islam. it is interesting to note that abu hanafi's work was really more (non-arabic) cultural and then enveloped by islamic law. while the ottomans forced this thought on muslims during their reign, folks had no problem putting them aside when the rule fell. however, shafi'i's more arabized islamic law was able to transform into 'pure' islam for most muslims. what gives?

afdhere

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>From: "na'eem jeenah" >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected], [email protected] >Subject: Re: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] slavery, polygamy >Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 11:41:36 +0200 > >salaam > >from my reading, the ffg were some of those that were not arabs: Abu >Hanifa, al-Nisa'i, al-Tirmidhi, Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn Majah, al-Ghazzali, Ibn >Sina, al-Farabi, Razi... > >I'm sure there would be a lot more if we included all the great muslim >philosophers, mahemeticians, literary personalities, etc, all of whom contributed >to the development of Islamic scholarship and civilisation. > >na'eem > >On 11 Mar 2004 at 8:15, Afdhere Jama wrote: > > > i didn't know the major madhabs were started by non-arabs. i t
hought > > all four madhabs were started by arabs (check the link below.) but > > besides that, all the major muslim "paths" were carved by arabs--- > > hence why a lot of people carry much of arab culture as "muslim" (the > > most apparent ofwhichis -- for example -- the khamiis and 3immamah > > wherein the arab world most arabs, including non- muslims, wear.) > > also, i don't know about other branches but the largest branch, > > sunnism, have hada majority of arab scholars; > > http://www.sunnah.org/history/Scholars/ i would like to point out a > > rather obvious pointof this arab power amongst the muslims. while the > > paths arabs start seem to grow fast in other muslim lands (such recent > > paths would include wahabbism, which is the fastest growing path in > > islam now), non-arab paths seem to go a whole l
ot slower in the arab > > world. why do you think this is? :) > > >_______________________________________________ >ProgressiveMuslims mailing list >[email protected] >http://willo.nitric.co.za/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/progressivemuslims

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