CryoNet #32358 - #32359

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    #32358: New angle on the social disfunction - religion belief hypothe... [David]
    #32359: Re: CryoNet #32356 - #32357 [Freeposity]

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Message #32358
From: David <[email protected]>
Subject: New angle on the social disfunction - religion belief hypothe...
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 17:43:08 +0100

This is an interesting new angle on the social disfunction - religious  
belief hypothesis:

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/2/3/addiction

Dr. Gabor Mate is the staff physician at the Portland Hotel Society,  
which runs a residence/harm reduction facility and North America's  
only supervised safe-injection site in Vancouver, Canada, home to one  
of the world's densest areas of drug users. The bestselling author of  
four books, we speak to Dr. Mate about his latest, In the Realm of  
Hungry Ghosts: Close Encounters with Addiction, which proposes new  
approaches to treating addiction through an understanding of its  
biological and socio-economic roots. Mate also discusses his work on  
attention deficit disorder and the mind-body connection.


dss

David Stodolsky
[email protected]  Skype: davidstodolsky

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Message #32359
References: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 13:02:23 -0600
Subject: Re: CryoNet #32356 - #32357
From: Freeposity <[email protected]>

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:00 AM, CryoNet <[email protected]> wrote:
> Message #32356
> From: "John de Rivaz" <[email protected]>
> References: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Organic progress model versus the Drunkard's Walk
> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:45:42 -0000
>
> As far as rockets are concerned, I am wondering whether the lack of
> enthusiasm is because that although they do the job, they are really quite
> impractical on an econmic basis for getting out of gravity wells. Clarke's
> idea of the space elevator seemed like a wild fantasy at the time of
> inception, but nanotechnology has made it look more of a possibility. The
> trouble is, that it could still be too long for most aspiring astronauts
> alive today before the materials are found to implement it.
>

Actually the materials have been found. What's missing is the
manufacturing capability and the will to build it. Carbon nanotubes
are strong enough to make a space elevator tether. Carbon nanotubes
are being manufactured now but not at the quality and quantity needed
for the space elevator.


> There is a similar parallel with cures for aging. Heroic surgery is a bit
> like rockets - expensive and capable for helping only a few people, and not
> achieving much in terms of maximum lifespan. With the passing years,
> nanotechnological methods are looking more feasible. But they are too late
> for those alive today.
>

I wouldn't bet on that. Many people alive today will live another 80
years just at the current level of medical technology. I know people
who have gained decades of life through stem cell therapy which
resulted in new heart tissue being grown. 10 years ago people with
heart failure were on a downward spiral with no hope of regaining
function and now some actually can reverse the damage done to the
heart.

Just in the last few years we've seen a therapy developed  that can
cure diabetes. I've read about successful imprinting of immune systems
with foreign organs so the recipient does not need to take anti
rejection medication.

I really think that in less than 2 decades we will see trans species
organ transplants come out as a viable and successful response to
organ failure.


-- 
Your friendly neighborhood agnostic atheist
and reality based hope monger

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