CryoNet #32487 - #32489

CryoNet - Wed 17 Mar 2010

    #32487: Fw: Hydrogen Sulfide [JOSEPH W MORGAN]
    #32488: Re: Collateral Damage or Misguided Malarkey? [David Stodolsky]
    #32489: CryoNet Reboot [Kevin Q. Brown]

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Message #32487
From: "JOSEPH W MORGAN" <[email protected]>
Subject: Fw: Hydrogen Sulfide
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:34:38 -0700

Is hydrogen sulfide an alternative to cryonics?

http://www.ted.com/talks/mark_roth_suspended_animation.html<http://www.ted.com/talks/mark_roth_suspended_animation.html>
http://ikaria.com/<http://ikaria.com/>

One huge plus is that you don't have to die to use it!



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Message #32488
From: David Stodolsky <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Collateral Damage or Misguided Malarkey?
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:48:59 +0100
References: <[email protected]>

On 16 Mar 2010, at 10:00 AM, CryoNet wrote:

>> This will not work, because it assumes the ratings are honest. A
>> dishonest rater is free to choose "abuse", the most negative rating.
>> And as long as most messages are not rated at all, that rating will
>> dominate.
>
> What about people who are dishonestly nice and rate mediocre posts
> excellently to counterbalance the dishonest bad people? Shouldn't this
> be taken into account?

First, the weight of "abuse" is so high that it easily overwhelms  
positive ratings.

Second, the Rating System is hardly used, thus any discussion of  
balance is misleading.

Third, the structure of the Rating System encourages strategic  
responses. This could easily be eliminated by using the standard  
moderation features of a mailing list manager.

So, the current System doesn't work, can't be made to work, and is  
unnecessary.

For continuity, neutrality, and public relations reasons, the List  
needs to be the responsibility of an organization having the best  
interests of the Cryonics Movement as part of its mission.


dss

David Stodolsky
[email protected]  Skype: davidstodolsky

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Message #32489
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:04:21 -0400
From: "Kevin Q. Brown" <[email protected]>
Subject: CryoNet Reboot

For all those who are in high dudgeon over my previous message:

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=32481
Collateral Damage or Misguided Malarkey?

which offered a quick-and-dirty rating scheme patch
after a humbling assessment of CryoNet:

"It's just so 90's and way overdue for a reboot."

I just set up a phpBB at:

http://www.cryonet.org/phpBB3/

with a forum called "CryoNet Reboot".  It currently contains
two topics: "Requirements" and "Implementations".  I posted my
initial wish list there under "Requirements".

Anyone can view the messages without logging in.
Posting messages requires establishing an account,
by supplying a username, password, and email address.

The messages at this forum likely will be ephemeral,
not archived as CryoNet messages.  Although I set up
the forum to avoid distracting CryoNet with lots of
Internet, ISP, and programming details, some of the
"Requirements" messages will be useful on CryoNet, too.
(You all know how to post to CryoNet, so don't depend
on me to post everything that you think is important.)

Let me know what you think.

Kevin Q. Brown
[email protected]
(Please include "cryonics" or "CryoNet" in the subject line.)

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