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CryoNet - Mon 12 Jul 2010

    #32697: My "Lazarus" Nanotechnology graphic novel interview [Gina Miller]
    #32698: paternalism--unchosen cryostasis [oberon]
    #32699: Coercion, not paternalism - unchosen cryostasis [Finance Department]

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Message #32697
From: "Gina Miller" <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
Subject: My "Lazarus" Nanotechnology graphic novel interview
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 12:02:29 -0600

My new graphic novel Lazarus (http://nanogirl.com/author.html) is currently 
being featured on the front page of City Weekly. They interviewed me about 
Lazarus as well as about my other animation work and my textured paintings. 
It's a very lengthy interview full of photographs. You can read it here: 
http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/blog-3889-gina-miller.html

I hope you enjoy it, and Lazarus too! Gina

Get your copy of Lazarus:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0982731205 

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Message #32698
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 20:51:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: [email protected]
Subject: paternalism--unchosen cryostasis

In Message #32694 From: [email protected]
> But in his last illness he became depressed, and his children said he told
> them he had changed his mind and didn't want to be frozen.
>
If anybody has a similar problem in future, you might want to consider
leaving behind a box or two of top quality chocolates after a
visit. Chocolate appears to exert an anti-depressant effect. At the very
least, chocolate couldn't hurt.

Arch Intern Med. 2010 Apr 26;170(8):699-703.
Mood food: chocolate and depressive symptoms in a cross-sectional analysis.
Rose N, Koperski S, Golomb BA. Department of Medicine, University of
California, San Diego, 9500 Gilman Dr, MC 0995, La Jolla, CA 92093-0995, USA.
Abstract
BACKGROUND: Much lore but few studies describe a relation of chocolate to mood. We examined the cross-sectional relationship of chocolate consumption with depressed mood in adult men and women. METHODS: A sample of 1018 adults (694 men and 324 women) from San Diego, California, without diabetes or known coronary artery disease was studied in a cross-sectional analysis. The 931 subjects who were not using antidepressant medications and provided chocolate consumption information were the focus of the analysis. Mood was assessed using the Center for Epidemiologic Studies Depression Scale (CES-D). Cut points signaling a positive depression screen result (CES-D score, >or=16) and probable major depression (CES-D score, >or=22) were used. Chocolate servings per week were provided by 1009 subject
 s. Chocolate consumption frequency and rate data from the Fred Hutchinson Food Frequency Questionnaire were also available for 839 subjects. Chocolate consumption was compared for those with lower vs higher CES-D scores. In addition, a test of trend was performed. RESULTS: Those screening positive for possible depression (CES-D score >or=16) had higher chocolate consumption (8.4 servings per month) than those not screening positive (5.4 servings per month) (P = .004); those with still higher CES-D scores (>or=22) had still higher chocolate consumption (11.8 servings per month) (P value for trend, <.01). These associations extended to both men and women. These findings did not appear to be explained by a general increase in fat, carbohydrate, or energy intake. CONCLUSION: Higher CES-D dep
 ression scores were associated with greater chocolate consumption. Whether there is a causal connection, and if so in which direction, is a matter for future prospective study.
PMID: 20421555

Nutr Neurosci. 2008 Dec;11(6):269-76.
Antidepressant-like effects of a cocoa polyphenolic extract in Wistar-Unilever rats.
Messaoudi M, Bisson JF, Nejdi A, Rozan P, Javelot H. ETAP-Applied Ethology, Centre de Recherche en Pharmacologie, Cancerologie & Pathologies Humaines et Nutrition-Sante, Vandoeuvre-les-Nancy, France.
Abstract
    Depression is a major public health problem affecting about 12% of the world population. Drugs exist but they have many side effects. In the last few years, natural substances (e.g. flavonoids) have been tested to cure such disorders. Cocoa polyphenolic extract is a complex compound prepared from non-roasted cocoa beans containing high levels of flavonoids. The antidepressant-like effect of cocoa polyphenolic extract was evaluated using the forced swimming test in rats. Cocoa polyphenolic extract significantly reduced the duration of immobility at both doses of 24 mg/kg/14 days and 48 mg/kg/14 days, although no change of motor dysfunction was observed with the two doses tested in the open field. The results of the forced swimming test after a subchronic treatment and after an additiona
 l locomotor activity test confirm the assumption that the antidepressant-like effect of cocoa polyphenolic extract in the forced swimming test model is specific. Further, it can be speculated that this effect might be related to its content of active polyphenols.
PMID: 19000380

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Message #32699
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 01:45:11 -0500
Subject: Coercion, not paternalism - unchosen cryostasis
From: Finance Department <[email protected]>

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A founder of the idea of cryonics, Bob Ettinger, wrote on "unchosen
cryostasis" a couple of days ago in Message #32694.

Despite the respect I have for all he has done for cryonics over the
decades, I regret to differ somewhat from him on this subject, and now have
to wonder how many of his two wives and other persons he has cryopreserved,
were done so with their pre-arranged consent.

I will not debate his statements; rather, will simply offer my own.  Mine
are pretty simple. Anyone's choice of the disposition of her/his body should
be respected and honored, whether it be cryosuspension, cremation, burial,
or about anything else one might imagine.  People should have rights, and
those rights should be extended to the desire for suicide or not, as well as
the desire for what happens to their bodies after death is declared.

The next of kin should have no rights that supersede those given in writing
by the deceased.  This is contrary to existing law most places in the USA
and is a matter which cryonics organizations should immediately start
addressing as a problem to be fixed.

If someone is so lax as to leave no written instructions, I see no reason
the next of kin should not have the right to decide for that person as to
the disposition of the declared-dead body, including cryopreservation for
that person.  But that next of kin should never have the right to override
the wishes clearly expressed previously by the deceased.

Those who choose something different from cryopreservation should have their
choices honored by everyone.  Even if such a choice means to cryonicists
"choosing death".  Similarly, those who choose to suicide should have the
right to do so without "big daddy" intervening and providing coercive
changes.

Bob spends a lot of time focusing on the "children or mentally incompetent
patients" scenario.  His attempts to make it sound like everyone fits into
that are transparent.  The vast majority do not.  Those who do, well sure, I
agree, decide for them.  But not for most of us who have expressed our
wishes for ourselves - decide according to that instead.  Please.

Otherwise it is coercion, not merely paternalism.  And coercion is a
violation of human rights.

Cheers,

FD

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