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#32795: Breaking news about women and Cryonic / Eilmeldung zum Thema ... [Jens Rabis]
#32796: Clinical trial of a novel surface cooling system for fever co... [oberon]
#32797: Re Breaking news about women and Cryonic / Eilmeldung zum The... [John de Rivaz]
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Message #32795
From: "Jens Rabis" <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
Subject: Breaking news about women and Cryonic / Eilmeldung zum Thema ...
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:48:46 +0200
Hi Cryonauten,
Breaking news about women and Cryonic
Paris Hilton,
http://www.google.de/images?hl=de&q=Paris%20Hilton%20Business%20Hotel&um=1&i
e=UTF-8&source=og&tab=wi&imgtype=i_similar&sa=X&ei=YiJ1TPSMGMid4Qb07ojvBQ&ct
=img-sim-l&oi=image_sil&resnum=19&tbnid=lK127BLR1rYnJM
...
wants to open the first hotel for conserved human. It will be showered with
investment opportunities, because the business is safe for a few centuries.
Exactly the right time, because there are a lot of money, which does not
know where to go!
Allegedly wants Lady Gaga,
http://www.google.de/images?um=1&hl=de&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=Lady+gaga+blue&aq
=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
...
her body conserve by german Plastinator van Hagen:
http://www.koerperwelten.com/
...
and freeze the Gaga-brain at http://www.alcor.org
Brain and body will reside at the Hotel of Paris Hilton. Of course, Lady
Gaga already reserved a room with a great view because it can sometimes go
so fast. E.g. in a hot dance fall down from the stage.
The hotel is in the VAR (United Arab Emirates) and is exclusively with
renewable
Energy used. Lady Gaga is now accompanied by an cryo-emergency-team. What
may be described as a new form of luxury . who can afford that?
Why I am only a poor man?
Best greetings Jens Rabis
Germany-Berlin
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Eilmeldung zum Thema Kryonik und Frauen:
Paris Hilton,
http://www.google.de/images?hl=de&q=Paris%20Hilton%20Business%20Hotel&um=1&i
e=UTF-8&source=og&tab=wi&imgtype=i_similar&sa=X&ei=YiJ1TPSMGMid4Qb07ojvBQ&ct
=img-sim-l&oi=image_sil&resnum=19&tbnid=lK127BLR1rYnJM
will das erste Hotel fur konservierte Menschen eroffnen. Sie wird mit
Beteiligungsangeboten uberschuttet, weil das Geschaft ist sicher fur ein
paar Jahrhunderte. Genau zum richtigen Zeitpunkt, denn es gibt viel Geld,
welches nicht weiss wohin!
Angeblich will Lady Gaga,
http://www.google.de/images?um=1&hl=de&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=Lady+gaga+blue&aq
=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
...
ihren Korper beim Plastinator van Hagen: http://www.koerperwelten.com/
konservieren und ihr Gaga-Gehirn bei http://www.alcor.org
einfrieren lassen.
Gehirn und Korper residieren dann im Hotel von Paris Hilton. Naturlich hat
Lady Gaga schon ein Zimmer mit toller Aussicht reserviert, weil es kann ja
mal schnell gehen ... z.Bsp. bei einem heiBen Tanz von der Buhne
herunterfallen.
Das Hotel steht in den VAR (Vereinigte Arabische Emirate) und wird
ausschlieBlich mit erneuerbaren
Energien betrieben. Lady Gaga wird jetzt immer von einem Kryo-Notfallteam
begleitet, was man als eine neue Form von Luxus bezeichnen kann. Wer hat das
schon?
Warum bin ich nur ein armer Mann?
Beste GruBe Jens Rabis
Germany-Berlin
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Message #32796
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 07:47:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: [email protected]
Subject: Clinical trial of a novel surface cooling system for fever co...
Cooling live patients is known to help prevent brain damage. I am not
aware of this sort of technology being used for treating terminal patents
interested in cryonics. Nonetheless, it still looks interesting, if a
little pricey.
Here's a nice picture illustrating the Cincinnati SubZero cooling system.
http://www.cszmedical.com/
Has anybody tried this inexpensive product?>>
http://www.coolingmattress.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=chilisingle&Category_Code=ChiliPad
Below is a head to head comparison of two expensive cooling systems. I'm
looking for cheaper alternative systems. In addition to cryonics
pretreatment, these sorts of devices may be useful for helping to
impliment radical life extending human hibernation. Thus far I have found
that by changing sleeping arrangements, body temperature can be altered
over a range of about 1 C. Arctic bowhead whales have a body temperature
of 33.6 C, which is about 3 C lower than that of other whales, as well as
humans. Bowhead maximum lifespan has been documented to be 211+ years,
which is much higher than that for other whales, as well as humans.
Crit Care Med. 2004 Dec;32(12):2508-15.
Clinical trial of a novel surface cooling system for fever control in neurocritical care patients.
Mayer SA, Kowalski RG, Presciutti M, Ostapkovich ND, McGann E, Fitzsimmons BF, Yavagal DR, Du YE, Naidech AM, Janjua NA, Claassen J, Kreiter KT, Parra A, Commichau C. Neurological Intensive Care Unit, Department of Neurology, College of Physicians and Surgeons, Columbia University, New York, NY 10032, USA.
Comment in:
Crit Care Med. 2004 Dec;32(12):2558-60.
Crit Care Med. 2005 Aug;33(8):1890-1; author reply 1891.
Crit Care Med. 2005 Jul;33(7):1672.
Abstract
OBJECTIVE: To compare the efficacy of a novel water-circulating surface cooling system with conventional measures for treating fever in neuro-intensive care unit patients.
DESIGN: Prospective, unblinded, randomized controlled trial.
SETTING: Neurologic intensive care unit in an urban teaching hospital.
PATIENTS: Forty-seven patients, the majority of whom were mechanically ventilated and sedated, with fever > or =38.3 degrees C for >2 consecutive hours after receiving 650 mg of acetaminophen.
INTERVENTIONS: Subjects were randomly assigned to 24 hrs of treatment with a conventional water-circulating cooling blanket placed over the patient (Cincinnati SubZero, Cincinnati OH) or the Arctic Sun Temperature Management System (Medivance, Louisville CO), which employs hydrogel-coated water-circulating energy transfer pads applied directly to the trunk and thighs.
MEASUREMENTS AND MAIN RESULTS: Diagnoses included subarachnoid hemorrhage (60%), cerebral infarction (23%), intracerebral hemorrhage (11%), and traumatic brain injury (4%). The groups were matched in terms of baseline variables, although mean temperature was slightly higher at baseline in the Arctic Sun group (38.8 vs. 38.3 degrees C, p = .046). Compared with patients treated with the SubZero blanket (n = 24), Arctic Sun-treated patients (n = 23) experienced a 75% reduction in fever burden (median 4.1 vs. 16.1 C degrees -hrs, p = .001). Arctic Sun-treated patients also spent less percent time febrile (T > or =38.3 degrees C, 8% vs. 42%, p < .001), spent more percent time normothermic (T < or =37.2 degrees C, 59% vs. 3%, p < .001), and attained normothermia faster than the SubZero group med
ian (2.4 vs. 8.9 hrs, p = .008). Shivering occurred more frequently in the Arctic Sun group (39% vs. 8%, p = .013).
CONCLUSION: The Arctic Sun Temperature Management System is superior to conventional cooling-blanket therapy for controlling fever in critically ill neurologic patients.
PMID: 15599159
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Message #32797
From: "John de Rivaz" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re Breaking news about women and Cryonic / Eilmeldung zum The...
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:13:53 +0100
I can find nothing on the search engines that actually support this claim
about Paris Hilton and Lady Gaga wanting cryonics. The links posted were
just images of the women concerned - no text about cryonics or anything
else.
Unfortunately celebrities have learned that they can say something about
cryonics and get in the papers for a day or so, and if fans protest or they
get bad publicity just laugh it off as a joke. They want publicity, good or
bad - as long as their names are spelt correctly. I would have thought that
Joanne Stefani Germanotta with her street theatre character, the singer Lady
Gaga, was doing well enough not to need this sort of thing, though. But many
reports do link her with Paris Hilton who may be the originator of the story
that Jens found but I could not.
Many cryonicists hope that a celebrity will support the concept and thereby
encourage fans to follow them. Unfortunately none of the people with more
serious public images who would have made better role models have done so.
[Germanotta is almost certainly an extremely serious, thoughtful and
successful businesswoman/entertainer, but her public persona is not intended
to be.]
--
Sincerely, John de Rivaz: http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including
Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley
Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy, Nomad .. and
more
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