CryoNet #33302 - #33308

CryoNet - Thu 3 Feb 2011

    #33302: Alcor Fees are too high [=?UTF-8?Q?Jonathan_Despr=C3=A9s?=]
    #33303: http://www.simplyvoting.com/ an online voting system [=?UTF-8?Q?Jonathan_Despr=C3=A9s?=]
    #33304: Re: progress [David Stodolsky]
    #33305: Alcor people does not help poor people [=?UTF-8?Q?Jonathan_Despr=C3=A9s?=]
    #33306: Re: CryoNet #33295 [Mark F Connaughton]
    #33307: Social relations predictive of ischaemic heart disease? [David Stodolsky]
    #33308: Re: CryoNet #33298 - #33301 [J Coetzee MSc]

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Message #33302
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:13:39 +0100
Subject: Alcor Fees are too high
From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jonathan_Despr=C3=A9s?= <[email protected]>

I think Alcor Fees should be lowered, and I suggest to all members to
vote on this.

I am paying about 68$US per month and I think it's too high.

--Jon

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Message #33303
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 12:00:30 +0100
Subject: http://www.simplyvoting.com/ an online voting system
From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jonathan_Despr=C3=A9s?= <[email protected]>

I fear that Alcor will become a rich only organisation

and people with no money like me will suffer from this

So I suggest an online voting system:

http://www.simplyvoting.com/

for important decisions like the rising fees of Alcor which should be lowered.

--Jon

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Message #33304
Subject: Re: progress
From: David Stodolsky <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 12:32:52 +0100
References: <[email protected]>

On 2 Feb 2011, at 11:00 AM, CryoNet wrote:

> Mark Plus had the sense for about 20 years now that economic and technological progress in the U.S. has broken down somehow. 
> 
> I wonder whether that is really true for everyone. Maybe it is the middle classes where progress has slowed. The cost of better working conditions and the availability of things for poor people has to be met somehow and the price is slower progress for the middle and upper classes. 

This is nonsense. Current economic problems and those which have been building up for the last thirty years result from a lack of consumption. That is, people don't have enough money to buy stuff and keep the economy going.

This interview, with the man the wrote a book on neoliberalism, lays it out. Unfortunately, toward the end he goes off into the 'limits to growth' nonsense that has infected the Left in recent years:

http://www.progressive.org/radioharvey11.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Harvey_(geographer)


dss

David Stodolsky
[email protected]  Skype: davidstodolsky

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Message #33305
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 12:35:18 +0100
Subject: Alcor people does not help poor people
From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jonathan_Despr=C3=A9s?= <[email protected]>

Alcor people does not help poor people.

They should be more social sensitive.

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Message #33306
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 08:22:17 -0800
From: Mark F Connaughton <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: CryoNet #33295
References: <[email protected]>

On 2/1/2011 2:00 AM, CryoNet wrote:
> Message #33295
> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:42:09 -0700
> Subject: When does that other 21st Century start?
> From: MARK PLUS<[email protected]>
>
> ....
>
> What happened to that other 21st Century I read about as a youngster?
Lawyers, politicians, regulators and beancounters happened.  Too many PhDs
and not enough nut-and-bolt people.  The parasites of Hugh's Law - 
"Successful
systems breed parasites."  Eloi, the narcissistic voice-synthesized 
mannequins
that populate the big screen, amass large sums of money and political 
power and
use it to pamper their needy vanity.  This is what happened to Rome.

These we must overcome to reclaim our lives, our present and our future.

We should be planning a permanent manned colony on the moon by the middle
of the 2020s.  Instead we have the ultimate empty suit giving us hollow 
"great visions"
of a manned mission to Mars 35 years from now.  An academic's dream 
project -
years and years of paper studies, org charts, fishbone diagrams, 
schedules and
budgets, and no need to show anything real for at least 2 decades.  
These Eloi
need to be excised from our body politic and sent packing.

-Mark F Connaughton, PE

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Message #33307
From: David Stodolsky <[email protected]>
Subject: Social relations predictive of ischaemic heart disease?
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:28:52 +0100

http://press.psprings.co.uk/jech/december/jech106153.pdf

Are negative aspects of social relations predictive of angina pectoris? A 6-year follow-up study of middle-aged Danish women and men

Social relations have been shown to be protective against ischaemic heart disease (IHD), but little is known about the impact of negative aspects of the social relations on IHD.


dss

David Stodolsky
[email protected]  Skype: davidstodolsky

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Message #33308
From: "J Coetzee MSc" <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: CryoNet #33298 - #33301
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:39:54 -0500

If you were a short wave buff in the late fifties you would know that those 
vacuum tubes were and are superior to transistors and  electronic chips. It 
is only their size and energy consumption that is and was problematic.

Basie 

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