CryoNet #33350 - #33351

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CryoNet - Fri 25 Feb 2011

    #33350: CryoNet #33340 [doctor Robert]
    #33351: Re: Message #33349 [Finance Department]

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Message #33350
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:56:31 -0800
Subject: CryoNet #33340
From: doctor Robert <[email protected]>

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I ran the question, "why doesn't Alcor have a team in Oregon?"  ....in order
to take advantage of the assisted suicide act, by a friend, an attorney,
living in Oregon. He responded that according to the act, it could be done.
He points out that the patient must be a legal resident of Oregon and offers
the following;

Residency may be established by a number of actions, described in the list
below and in ORS 803.200 <http://landru.leg.state.or.us/ors/803.html> andORS
807.062 <http://landru.leg.state.or.us/ors/807.html>. Once you have become a
resident of Oregon, you are required by Oregon law to obtain Oregon vehicle
title and registration and to obtain an Oregon Driver License or Instruction
Permit. Failure to register a vehicle once residency has been established is
a Class D traffic violation. Failure to obtain an Oregon Driver License or
Instruction Permit once residency has been established is a Class B traffic
violation.

If you are uncertain whether you qualify for an Oregon Driver License, ID
Card, or Oregon Vehicle Registration, ask yourself the following questions:

   - Do I remain in Oregon for a consecutive period of six months or more
   each year?
   - Have I enrolled my children in an Oregon public school without payment
   of nonresident tuition fees?
   - Do I pay Oregon resident tuition fees at an educational institution
   maintained by public funds?
   - Have I made a declaration to be a resident of Oregon for the purpose of
   obtaining, at resident rates, a state license (other than an Oregon Driver
   License)?
   - Is Oregon listed as my home of record in my military records?
   - Do I pay resident income taxes to the state of Oregon?

I have, in the distant past, had discussions on this topic with various
Alcor Board Members....the overall thinking was that we did NOT want to be
associated with "euthanasia" in any possible way. Dr. Robert Newport

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Message #33351
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:32:23 -0600
Subject: Re: Message #33349
From: Finance Department <[email protected]>

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Gerald Monroe asks "Why doesn't Alcor or CI have a lab in Oregon to take
advantage of this law?" (referring to the Death With Dignity Act there)

Perhaps it is because they confuse "euthanasia" which when done to humans is
illegal most everywhere, with "assisted suicide" which is legal many places
such as Oregon (and ordinary "suicide" now legal most places)?

There would appear to be nothing illegal or improper for a cryopreservation
team to pick up immediately on someone who is pronounced dead from an
assisted suicide.  It might though become a hysteria-trigger for the press
and the anti-cryonics promoters, who would, first, get it wrong and call it
"euthanasia" and, second, shout aloud as to moral and ethical improprieties,
including false claims that the cryonicist was a victim of those greedy
organizations who killed him for his life insurance money, and on and on.

Maybe the cryo organizations should draw their line in the sand, and say
enough is enough, they are no longer going to be intimidated by the rantings
and ravings of irresponsible online journalists and anti-cryonic
propagandists, and are instead just going to do the right thing and let the
fallout go where it will?  The detractors are always going to find something
adverse to say, no matter what you do or don't do.

Cheers,

FD

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