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Dimitris Tsallas <[email protected]> Sun, 01 May 2011 13:41:57 +0300
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Ôþñá äéáâÜæù ôï Surface Detail ôïõ Banks, åßìáé ó÷åäüí óôç ìÝóç êáé 
ìÝ÷ñé óôéãìÞò èõìßæåé ôïí ðáëéü êáëü Banks, óáöþò ðñïôåßíåôáé ùò êáëÞ 
space opera. Ðñéí áðü áõôü äéÜâáóá ôï The City and the City ôïõ 
Mieville, ôï ïðïßï ïìïëïãþ üôé ìïõ Üöçóå áíÜìéêôá óõíáéóèÞìáôá ðáñüôé 
åßìáé öáí ôïõ. Ç áñ÷éêÞ éäÝá åíäéáöÝñïõóá, áëëÜ óýíôïìá åîáíôëåßôáé êáé 
äïêéìÜæåé ôá üñéá ôïõ suspension of disbelief. Äõóêïëåýïìáé íá êáôáëÜâù 
ãéáôß êÝñäéóå ôüóá âñáâåßá, ßóùò Ýëëåéøç áíôáãùíéóìïý; Ðéï ðñéí äéÜâáóá 
ôï The Evolutionary Void ôïõ Hamilton, Üëëç ìéá åîáéñåôéêÞ åðéëïãÞ ãéá 
óýã÷ñïíç space opera. Åðüìåíï ìüëéò ôåëåéþóù ôïí Banks èá åßíáé ôï The 
Windup Girl ôïõ Paolo Bacigalupi, íá äïýìå áí Üîéæå ôï Hugo ðéï ðïëý áðü 
ôïí Mieville.

Óôéò 1/5/2011 12:09 ìì, ï/ç Vassilis Moschovos Ýãñáøå:
>
>
> Old school is the  best... ( to MITHC 8a to pshfiza kai egw me kleista 
> ta matia, alla to "Nightdawn" 8a einai pio 8eamatiko se 3D). :D
> Teleiwnw to "Galileos' dream" tou Robinson, exw ena tou Raynold's se 
> anamonh. Kamia protash kalhs k sygxronhs space opera h estw 
> high-science novelle? Alliws 8a prepei na epistrepsw sthn phgh kai na 
> agorasw mia syllogh toy Heinlein me dihghmata apo thn dekaetia toy '50.
>
> *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Sunday, 1 May 2011, 9:56:29
> *Subject:* Re: Re: [SFGR] Øçöïöïñßá ãéá
>
>
> >
> >
> > On 29/04/2011 11:02, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
> > > AlxUnder ;-)
> > >
> > > Õ.Ã. ¶ñáãå ï ÔæÞñïò åßíáé áêüìá åäþ; Áí íáé, ÷ñüíéá ðïëëÜ ãéá ôçí 
> ÊõñéáêÞ.
> > > Õ.Ã.2 ... ï stratari;;;
> >
> >
> > ÐáñÜ ôéò áíôåíäåßîåéò, æù! ;-)
> >
> > ¼íôáò ðáëáéþí áñ÷þí øÞöéóá ôï The Man in the High Castle
> > ÌðáúäåãïõÝé, ôï Ender's game êáêþò åßíáé óôç ëßóôá.
> > 
> http://www.deadline.com/2011/04/franchise-hungry-summit-plays-enders-game-with-filmmaker-gavin-hood/
> >
>
> Ôï áíÝöåñáí óå êÜðïéï áðü ôá Üñèñá üôé óõìðåñéÝëáâáí êáé (íïìßæù 2) 
> ôáéíßåò
> ðïõ õðïôßèåôáé üôé åßíáé óå êÜðïéï óôÜäéï ðáñáãùãÞò, ìå ôç ëïãéêÞ ôïõ áí
> äåí ôï äïýìå íá ðñïâÜëëåôáé, äåí ðéóôåýïõìå ôßðïôá.
>
> Êáé ìéá åñþôçóç- ðáãßäá: ôé äéáâÜæåôå/ Ý÷åôå äéáâÜóåé, áò ðïýìå áðü 
> ôçí áñ÷Þ
> ôïõ 2011;
>
> Åãþ ôþñá äéáâÜæù ôçí ÁíáóêáöÞ óôï ÌÝëëïí ôïõ Ã. ×áôæç÷ñÞóôïõ, ìüëéò 
> ôåëåßùóá
> (Ì. ÅâäïìÜäá) ôï Èüëï ôïõ King (åëëçíéêÜ), äéáâÜæù ëßãï- ëßãï (åßíáé 
> äéçãÞìáôá)
> ôï (The Mammoth book of) Future Cops, ôåëåßùóá ðñéí ôï ÐÜó÷á 
> êáèõóôåñçìÝíá ôï
> Altered Carbon óôá åëëçíéêÜ, ðñéí Þôáí ôï Old Man's War ôïõ Scalzi êáé 
> ç ×ñïíéÜ
> ôçò Ðëçììýñáò ôçò Atwood.
>
>
> AlxUnder ;-)
>
>

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    Ôþñá äéáâÜæù ôï Surface Detail ôïõ Banks, åßìáé ó÷åäüí óôç ìÝóç êáé
    ìÝ÷ñé óôéãìÞò èõìßæåé ôïí ðáëéü êáëü Banks, óáöþò ðñïôåßíåôáé ùò
    êáëÞ space opera. Ðñéí áðü áõôü äéÜâáóá ôï The City and the City ôïõ
    Mieville, ôï ïðïßï ïìïëïãþ üôé ìïõ Üöçóå áíÜìéêôá óõíáéóèÞìáôá
    ðáñüôé åßìáé öáí ôïõ. Ç áñ÷éêÞ éäÝá åíäéáöÝñïõóá, áëëÜ óýíôïìá
    åîáíôëåßôáé êáé äïêéìÜæåé ôá üñéá ôïõ suspension of disbelief.
    Äõóêïëåýïìáé íá êáôáëÜâù ãéáôß êÝñäéóå ôüóá âñáâåßá, ßóùò Ýëëåéøç
    áíôáãùíéóìïý; Ðéï ðñéí äéÜâáóá ôï The Evolutionary Void ôïõ
    Hamilton, Üëëç ìéá åîáéñåôéêÞ åðéëïãÞ ãéá óýã÷ñïíç space opera.
    Åðüìåíï ìüëéò ôåëåéþóù ôïí Banks èá åßíáé ôï The Windup Girl ôïõ
    Paolo Bacigalupi, íá äïýìå áí Üîéæå ôï Hugo ðéï ðïëý áðü ôïí
    Mieville.<br>
    <br>
    Óôéò 1/5/2011 12:09 ìì, ï/ç Vassilis Moschovos Ýãñáøå:
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        <div style="right: auto;"><span style="right: auto;">Old school
            is the  best... ( to MITHC <var id="yui-ie-cursor"></var>8a
            to pshfiza kai egw me kleista ta matia, alla to "Nightdawn"
            8a einai pio 8eamatiko se 3D). :D</span></div>
        <div style="right: auto;"><span style="right: auto;"></span> </div>
        <div style="right: auto;"><span style="right: auto;">Teleiwnw to
            "Galileos' dream" tou Robinson, exw ena tou Raynold's se
            anamonh. Kamia protash kalhs k sygxronhs space opera h estw
            high-science novelle? Alliws 8a prepei na epistrepsw sthn
            phgh kai na agorasw mia syllogh toy Heinlein me dihghmata
            apo thn dekaetia toy '50. </span></div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
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              <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]">"[email protected]"</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a><br>
              <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br>
              <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
              Sunday, 1 May 2011, 9:56:29<br>
              <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
              Re: Re: [SFGR] Øçöïöïñßá ãéá<br>
            </font><br>
            <br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; On 29/04/2011 11:02, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:[email protected]"
              ymailto="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>
            wrote:<br>
            &gt; &gt; AlxUnder ;-)<br>
            &gt; &gt;<br>
            &gt; &gt; Õ.Ã. ¶ñáãå ï ÔæÞñïò åßíáé áêüìá åäþ; Áí íáé,
            ÷ñüíéá ðïëëÜ ãéá ôçí ÊõñéáêÞ.<br>
            &gt; &gt; Õ.Ã.2 ... ï stratari;;;<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; ÐáñÜ ôéò áíôåíäåßîåéò, æù! ;-)<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; ¼íôáò ðáëáéþí áñ÷þí øÞöéóá ôï The Man in the High
            Castle<br>
            &gt; ÌðáúäåãïõÝé, ôï Ender's game êáêþò åßíáé óôç ëßóôá.<br>
            &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.deadline.com/2011/04/franchise-hungry-summit-plays-enders-game-with-filmmaker-gavin-hood/"
              target="_blank">http://www.deadline.com/2011/04/franchise-hungry-summit-plays-enders-game-with-filmmaker-gavin-hood/</a><br>
            &gt; <br>
            <br>
            Ôï áíÝöåñáí óå êÜðïéï áðü ôá Üñèñá üôé óõìðåñéÝëáâáí êáé
            (íïìßæù 2) ôáéíßåò <br>
            ðïõ õðïôßèåôáé üôé åßíáé óå êÜðïéï óôÜäéï ðáñáãùãÞò, ìå ôç
            ëïãéêÞ ôïõ áí<br>
            äåí ôï äïýìå íá ðñïâÜëëåôáé, äåí ðéóôåýïõìå ôßðïôá.<br>
            <br>
            Êáé ìéá åñþôçóç- ðáãßäá: ôé äéáâÜæåôå/ Ý÷åôå äéáâÜóåé, áò
            ðïýìå áðü ôçí áñ÷Þ<br>
            ôïõ 2011;<br>
            <br>
            Åãþ ôþñá äéáâÜæù ôçí ÁíáóêáöÞ óôï ÌÝëëïí ôïõ Ã.
            ×áôæç÷ñÞóôïõ, ìüëéò ôåëåßùóá <br>
            (Ì. ÅâäïìÜäá) ôï Èüëï ôïõ King (åëëçíéêÜ), äéáâÜæù ëßãï-
            ëßãï (åßíáé äéçãÞìáôá)<br>
            ôï (The Mammoth book of) Future Cops, ôåëåßùóá ðñéí ôï ÐÜó÷á
            êáèõóôåñçìÝíá ôï<br>
            Altered Carbon óôá åëëçíéêÜ, ðñéí Þôáí ôï Old Man's War ôïõ
            Scalzi êáé ç ×ñïíéÜ<br>
            ôçò Ðëçììýñáò ôçò Atwood.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            AlxUnder ;-)<br>
            <br>
            <br>
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