Query: screenplays as literature?--multiple responses
Kenneth Nolley <[email protected]> Sat, 2 Nov 2013 10:22:59 -0700
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From: Lizie, Arthur <[email protected]> Hi, We just got a course proposal addressing this topic for our film studies minor. The instructor is using "Script Culture and the American Screenplay" by Kevin Alexander Boon as the primary text. Arthur Arthur Lizie, Ph.D. Chair, Dept. of Communication Studies Professor, Film, Video & Media Studies Bridgewater State University - Maxwell Library 215J 508-531-2170 [email protected] ********** From: *Paul Schulte* <[email protected]> Hi Tony, Yours is not a goofy question. It has come up before. I had an extended debate with several librarians over this very issue. Although I am from the theatre, I think it is a fallacy to think plays are literature. Teaching Shakespeare as literature has ruined Shakespeare for more students than it has helped. The worst way to approach a play is to read it. The best way is to see it in production. Aristotle was trying to classify what made a great play, not what made great literature. Personally, I would see plays either taken out of literature courses or replaced with productions of those plays. Reading plays is an art form that is both taught and learned. Reading plays from the 17th century is painful for everybody. I speak from experience as a Ben Jonson scholar. The primary excuse for reading the play rather than seeing a production or doing a production is that teachers can do the reading at least. With Ben Jonson, no one understands the humor these days. Screenplays are for a visual medium. Show it, don't say it. The first movies had no dialogue. Then there were title cards. Finally sound. Much of the dialogue today is called 'laying pipe.' The characters are laying the necessary exposition that the audience needs to understand the motivations of the characters. This does not make for great literature. There are very few screenplays with dialogue startling enough to perk up my ears. The few that do are adaptations of books or plays where someone else has written the dialogue first. Having said that, I do own a copy of Woody Allen scripts that were put in book form and that I enjoyed, having first seen the movie. I vote that screenplays are NOT literature and should not be read in any class other than the film school. I also vote that plays by returned to the theatre department where they can be treated properly. Paul Schulte Arizona Educational Consultants Gilbert, AZ ********** From: *Kassel, Michael* <[email protected]> I did a paper on Barry Levinsons "Avalon" ****** From: *Leo Enticknap* <[email protected]> Screenplays have been published in written form at least since Faber and Faber started a series in the '70s and the Madison Center for Film and Theater research started one (edited by Tino Balio, if I remember correctly), based mainly on Warners script, at around the same time. Tony Jackson asks: > if they aren't taught as lit, why not? At that point I'm guessing that they were a particularly valuable source for study and research, because the only way you could get to see the films themselves were on a rented 16mm non-theatrical print (difficult and expensive) or an off-air VHS (only available if you, or someone you knew, had recorded the movie off-air, and thus only if it had been broadcasted). In today's technological context, it is now so easy to get hold of a digital copy of virtually every mainstream movie which survives, that you wouldn't want to go to a written screenplay unless you needed to specifically for some other reason. While early draft screenplays are still an object of interest if they differ from the finished film significantly (e.g. the Faber edited screenplay of 'Greed' documents in detail the scenes that in filmed form were burnt on Thalberg's orders, and thus is all that remains of them), I'm guessing that they are less so in comparison to stage plays in their written form, because in the case of the latter they are interpreted in multiple ways and by multiple performers (and are thus the definitive statement of the initial author's personal vision), whereas most screenplays are only filmed once and by one cast and crew (Gus van Sant's remake of 'Psycho' being the only exception that comes immediately to my mind). To take another analogy: I've just finished learning Reubke's Sonata on the 94th Psalm. During that process I listened to several recordings of it, with multiple performer/organ combinations. Virgil Fox playing it on a monster Aeolian-Skinner megaorgan is going to sound very different from me playing it on a little local church organ with only one 32ft speaking stop (he puts his hands and feet in the right place, for one thing!), yet without the written score we have no way of knowing how he translated Reubke's composition into an actual performance; there is no common denominator for analysing and understanding the creative decisions that went in to the several dozen recoridngs of this piece that exist. But a written screenplay (especially if it's an initial draft, and not a cutting continuity) is not going to tell us much about what ends up on the screen, especially as the screenwriter is just one of many creative forces involved, in most cases. It will tell us something meaningful about the overall production process when used in conjunction with other evidence, but studying it in isolation is probably not going to be a very useful exercise in the case of most films. 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