Re: the last episode: a new theory

hi, i am also a new member.  It's been awhile since i last watched 
twin peaks, i used to always watch it during the 90s.  So reading 
these posts will help refresh my memory on particular scences.

Screenersamb, i agree with ur last comment - "I think WE played his 
vicious 'game' until it caught up with him".  Although the ending 
was confusing, i believed that evil or devil caught up with him in 
the end, and his desire to find the truth.  Similiar to that of a 
mad scientist, who makes too involved with his/her research. 


In [email protected], "screenersamb" <screenersamb@y...> 
wrote:
> 
> 
> (I just joined the group, hence the belated response); I guess 
we'd 
> have found out in Season 3.  I never got to see S2 (just read the 
> summaries, etc); got the impression that WE was in over his head 
wi 
> Bob/Black Lodge (sort of like the end of 'Frighteners', when the 
two 
> baddies get taken away by the bigger baddie).  any system that 
> demands perfection, i.e. complete fearlessness, isn't going to 
find  
> much acceptable (ever see the Star Trek episode 'Specter of the 
Gun'? 
> Spock has to hypnotize the guys to remove all their doubts).  I 
> certainly don't think SA Cooper would be trapped in the place for 
25 
> years.   As far as WE's agenda, he was 'evil', and destroyed etc. 
for 
> the heck of it.  the Biblical definition of evil is the adversary 
who 
> comes to 'kill, steal and destroy', which means taking life, 
taking 
> property, and ruining what it can't carry away, i.e. 'if I can't 
have 
> it neither can you, neener neener'.  Evil just does mean/bad 
things 
> by its nature.  I think WE played his vicious 'game' until it 
caught 
> up with him.
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "hermitage171" 
<hermitage171@y...> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > 	What happened in the Red Room, in the last episode? I don't 
> > even know if the writers had a perfectly clear idea, but it's 
fun 
> to 
> > theorize about it.
> > 	What happened to Windom Earle? Why did he try to take Dale's 
> > soul, and why did he fail?
> > 	I think that the answer to the first question is, he was 
> > trying to become more powerful. In fact, I think that was the 
> reason 
> > for all the murders that he committed in the second season, 
killing 
> > the various anonymous people... he wasn't trying to draw out 
Dale 
> as 
> > much as he was trying to gain power as a black magician, through 
> the 
> > practice of killing, destroying, refining his evilness. I think 
> that 
> > there are various existing black magic ideologies which present 
> this 
> > idea: the magician gains black power by committing evil deeds 
such 
> > as senseless murder. Windom's ambition was to become an 
extremely 
> > powerful black magician.
> > 	So, I think that if he had been able to actually swallow up 
> > Dale's soul, it would have made him much more powerful, since 
Dale 
> > was very powerful in terms of good, and corrupting-destroying-
> > coopting him would be an extraordinary evil accomplishment. 
> However, 
> > I think that he messed it up. I think that the fact that Dale 
> > offered his soul out of love, to save someone, meant that Windom 
> > could not gain black power by taking it, and in fact could not 
take 
> > it for black purposes at all. The fact that he tried to take it 
> > nonetheless led to his collapse. His evil intentions choked on 
the 
> > purity of Dale's soul, and he was forced to spit it back out.
> > 	This is not an unusual interpretation, but consider what 
> > happens next. Bob appears, announces his intention to take 
Windom's 
> > soul, and tells Dale to leave. Dale allows Bob to take Windom's 
> > soul, and he does leave. WHAT IF THIS IS HIS MISTAKE? Consider 
that 
> > it is exactly at this point that Dale's shadow self appears, and 
> > laughs with Bob. WHAT IF DALE COOPER WAS SUPPOSED TO TRY TO SAVE 
> > WINDOM EARLE?
> > 	Think about it. Windom was Dale's old partner, who taught 
> > him everything he knew about law enforcement. There must have 
been 
> > some kind of bond between them. And now Dale stands by and 
watches 
> > as Bob tears Windom's soul out of his body and devours it. Bob 
> tells 
> > him to go, to get out of the way, and he obliges. He didn't try 
to 
> > stop Bob, didn't try to save Windom. I think that this is his 
break 
> > with "perfect courage" and perfect love. Perfect love is not 
only 
> to 
> > love Annie, and to want to save her, but to want to save Windom 
as 
> > well, to redeem him. This is the ultimate test of love, to love 
> your 
> > enemy. But Dale gives in to his fear of Windom and his fear of 
Bob, 
> > as well as perhaps his desire for retribution against Windom, 
> > retribution for killing Caroline, capturing Annie, etc. So, Dale 
> > acts in passive compliance to the Bob, when active resistance is 
> > necessary. And I think that this tiny break with perfect courage 
is 
> > enough, not for his soul to be obliterated, but enough for it to 
be 
> > detained in the lodge. 
> > 
> > James Green-Armytage






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