Re: Regarding gatewaying gnu.org, nongnu.org and libreplanet.org mailing list to Gmane

Dmitry Alexandrov <[email protected]> Wed, 17 Jun 2020 09:48:56 +0300

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Steinar Bang <[email protected]> wrote:
> Actually @Dmitry, if you actually want an answer, the best way would be to send a message without CCs to each list admin address and ask directly.

Sorry, I cannot understand, how you and others there came up to conclusion, that I am going to send mail in bulk.

By all means, even if the message would be stereotyped, each listmaster have to be addressed separately.  Youʼve might noticed, that was exactly what I have started to do.  And we actually had got an answer the same day.  (But thatʼs GNU/FSF; we, of course, should not expect the same swiftness from anyone.)

> And then forward all positive responses to the gmane admins asking the address munging be undone.

That is, you are suggesting Cc neither Gmane admins nor list, while writing to a listmaster?

Sorry, I believe, thatʼs a terrible idea for multiple reasons: from potential trespassing upon Gmane adminʼs trust and the listmasterʼs privacy (do not expect, that all responses will be officially looking ones like from FSF RT system), to a purely technical ones: such as a certain chance to get an encrypted message in response to a privately sent cleartext mail.

Not to say, that lack of coordination means that several people might send the same request several times: a duplicated efforts and excessive annoyance for a listmaster.

> Ie. Subject something like:
>  Is it ok if NNTP gateway gmane removes address munging for list <list-name>?
>
> Then an explanation, something like:
>  "The NNTP gateway gmane, which carries this list, modifies everything
>   that looks like an email address.  This was intended as a spam blocker, but I doubt the effectiveness of that, and the address munging confuses legitimate software.
>
>   Is it OK if gmane removes the address munging?"

In other words, do not present any rationale.  Well...  Okay, the criterion of truth is practice: letʼs try your approach on debian.org.  I hope, that will do no harm.

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