Re: New fr.po (with translated dispspecs)

Michèle Garoche <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.editors.conglomerate.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi Hervé,

Le 24 oct. 2004, à 16:56, Hervé a écrit :

> I have a number of corrections/proposition regarding your patch. I 
> enclosed a diff against it.
Try to join the next time, because it's better for me.

> Also for "msgid authors", you should think about using 
> "meta-information" or "metainformation" but not both. :-)
Well it's difficult sometimes to remember what you have done, 
especially when you do several tasks at the same time/

> Last but not least, I think we should ask for the point of view of 
> professionals about translating "Copyright" -- I'm not sure the "droit 
> d'auteur" has the same legal meaning
Well, it has not the same, since intrinsically one covers the English 
notion and the other the French one. I can put Copyright if you prefer. 
(by the way I worked in this branch and especially on "droits 
d'auteur".

>  -- and "Publisher/Editor" (you translated both by "Éditeur".
Well, in the context, if I recall the term covers the same notion, 
should check.

> Your work include creative translations I'm a bit jealous of. ;-)
If this is criticism you are welcome to take the whole job, then I will 
have the pleasure to criticize.

> --- fr-po.patch	2004-10-24 16:52:19.798069088 +0200
> +++ fr-po.patched.patch	2004-10-24 16:54:17.702144944 +0200
> @@ -102,7 +102,7 @@
>  +
>  +#: dispspecs/dispspec.xds.in.h:12 dispspecs/docbook.xds.in.h:93
>  +msgid "Metadata"
> -+msgstr "Métadata"
> ++msgstr "Métadonnée"
Yes, better

>  +
>  +#: dispspecs/dispspec.xds.in.h:13 dispspecs/docbook.xds.in.h:95
>  +#: glade/cong-file-properties.glade.h:10 
> src/cong-edit-preferences.c:149
> @@ -182,11 +182,11 @@
>  +#: dispspecs/docbook.xds.in.h:11 
> dispspecs/forrest-document.xds.in.h:2
>  +#: dispspecs/xhtml1-strict.xds.in.h:2
>  +msgid "Acronym"
> -+msgstr "Acronyme"
> ++msgstr "Sigle ou acronyme"
No, remember this is a menu, just a short word to give the sense.

>  +
>  +#: dispspecs/docbook.xds.in.h:12
>  +msgid "Additional metadata"
> -+msgstr "Métada supplémentaire"
> ++msgstr "Métadonnée supplémentaire"
Yes

>  +#: dispspecs/docbook.xds.in.h:65
>  +msgid "GUI Label"
> -+msgstr "Étiquette UIG"
> ++msgstr "Étiquette d'interface utilisateur"
No, again, too long. I'll put IUG (my fingers wrote UIG alone)

>  +
>  +#: dispspecs/docbook.xds.in.h:66
>  +msgid "GUI Menu"
> -+msgstr "Menu UIG"
> ++msgstr "Menu d'interface utilisateur"
Idem

>  +
>  +#: dispspecs/docbook.xds.in.h:67
>  +msgid "GUI Menu Item"
> -+msgstr "Article de menu UIG"
> ++msgstr "Article de menu d'interface utilisateur"
Idem

>  +
>  +#: dispspecs/docbook.xds.in.h:68
>  +msgid "GUI Submenu"
> -+msgstr "Sous-menu UIG"
> ++msgstr "Sous-menu d'interface utilisateur"
Idem

>  +#: dispspecs/docbook.xds.in.h:74
>  +msgid "Image Data"
> -+msgstr "Donnée image"
> ++msgstr "Donnée d'image"
In this case Données d'image, but it's better Données image for a menu

>  +#: dispspecs/docbook.xds.in.h:152
>  +msgid "The International Standard Serial Number of a periodical."
> -+msgstr "Numéro de série standard international d'un journal"
> ++msgstr "Numéro de série standard international d'un périodique"
Yes

>  +#: dispspecs/kernel-traffic-newsletter.xds.in.h:4
>  +msgid "Block Quote"
> -+msgstr "Citation (blockquote)"
> ++msgstr "Paragraphe de citation"
No, the important word here is citation, it's not a description, just 
the equivalent of the tag into French.

>  +#: dispspecs/kernel-traffic-newsletter.xds.in.h:8
>  +msgid "Cite"
> -+msgstr "Citation (cite)"
> ++msgstr "Phrase de citation"
Idem

>  +#: dispspecs/xhtml1-strict.xds.in.h:8
>  +msgid "Bidirectional Override"
> -+msgstr "Changment de bidirectionnalité"
> ++msgstr "Changement de sens d'écriture"
Both are OK; but the official word on ww3c is bidirectionnalité, so I 
leave it as is. But I correct changement.

>  +#: dispspecs/xhtml1-strict.xds.in.h:21
> ++# XXX Really not sure but the original translation didn't use the 
> order of
> ++# words in french grammar.
>  +msgid "Definition Term"
> -+msgstr "Définition de terme"
> ++msgstr "Terme défini"
The problem is that the English wording is not adequate. Should check.

Michèle
<http://micmacfr.homeunix.org>

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