Re: Dependencies

On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 04:29:28PM +0000, Dave Malcolm wrote:
> In the past we've had an informal policy of trying to minimise
> Conglomerate's dependencies, restricting things to standard packages
> likely to be found on relatively recent distributions.
> 
> Part of the reason for this was that I had a bad internet connection and
> only had the standard packages myself.
> 
> Now that I've got bandwidth, I'm building the latest version of GNOME
> from source locally, and I'd like to start pushing things a bit more.  
> 
> I've been attempting to support GNOME 2.0, and this is too restrictive,
> with GNOME 2.4 out, and GNOME 2.5 about to go into API freeze for 2.6
> 
> Here are some examples of the things I'd like to do/use:
> - undo/redo drop down combos as seen in Gnumeric
> - action-based GUI API, which should make it easier to do a big overhaul
> of the menus and toolbars, which there was some discussion of a while
> back
> - recent files to appear in the File menu
> - libgsf for loading/saving
> - the new xml loading and saving APIs
> - Gnome Office plugin system
> - the new file selector to be properly integrated into the app
> - probably more examples (please suggest them!)
> 
> I'd also like to chop out some of conglomerate's code and get it merged
> into either GTK or one of the gnome libraries.
> 
> It's becoming a pain to maintain the code using the old GNOME 2.0
> features, especially when there are much easier ways to do certain
> things in the newer APIs.
> 
> So the question is:  how much pain would it cause people if Conglomerate
> started requiring more recent versions of Gnome/GTK etc?  Potentially
> very recent ones?
> 
> Some questions:  
> - What versions of these packages have you got installed?  
> - Are you building Conglomerate on top of the GNOME that came with your
> distribution, or on top of a locally-built version of some kind?
> - What's in the various versions of Debian?
Sorry, still didn't find a conclusive answer. [1]

> - What's other distributions are you using, and what versions of GNOME
> do they use?
> - Can we can get away with GNOME 2.2?  
> - Ditto for GNOME 2.4?  
> - Ditto for GNOME 2.5?
> - Ditto for Latest CVS?
> - Does anyone use GARNOME; would it be OK to track what's in GARNOME?
> - Ditto for any other build scripts?  (I'm using jhbuild)
> 
> Please reply to the list so that we can get some discussion going.
> 
> -- 
> David Malcolm

Geert Stappers

[1] This posting is merely a 'I did see the request message'
 If you know the Gnome version numbers in Debian,
 feel free to report them.